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I want to know why the hell it is still a man driven world?  We have many, many talented and intelligent women in this country, still being held back, or chastised by men for their ideas just because they are a woman.  It really burns me up!  Is this 2009 or 1950?  The men that are employed in my line of work are all extremely lazy! They sit on their asses, watch TV with the clients and bullshit with each other, and never get in trouble, never.  In fact, the less they do, it seems the more they get promoted!  Women are still forced to do more work, for less money. And all of us women in the house I work in for NYShave all complained to our Supervisor, who is a woman, that the men do this. She always acts surprised, yeah right, then tells us she’ll talk to them. Nothing ever happens.  And if we go beyond her, then we actually get in trouble for not following the chain of command, which they use constantly to keep us suppressed.  So much for the support of a union, sometimes it’s a burden.  Ladies, what are your thoughts on this subject? C‘mon let your voice be heard!  What can we do to change it?  Every time we try to make waves or a positive change we are called a bitch, or a lesbian, or a man hater, or fired!  Unfortunately, it is still a mans world, and it sucks!tongue out

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      Lilwhitedaisy wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • I think we have made progress..in some areas..BUT not all by any means. I dont think there will ever be a woman in the white house! I think woman who get far, arent always respected. I think stay at home moms like myself are now called UNEMPLOYED..doesnt matter how much i say Home maker..they call me UNEMPLOYED..trust me i work dang hard! when i am not on this computer blogging! I have no set hours, and no union and NO PAY! I agree..it is still a mans world..but id sooner be a woman than a man ANY DAY!



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      Deanna Moon wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • Me too Daisy, women rock!estatic



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      Lilwhitedaisy wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • have you noticed that most of the problems are caused by men......MEN strual cycle....MEN opause...MEN tal illness..you find me one problem that starts with woman!!!



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      Deanna Moon wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • Excellent response Bernadette!  You‘re absolutely right, women have been in authoritative positions, mostly in other more Humanitarian countries.  Our country, with the exception of our Secretary of State, and now Judge Sotomayor is very slow to recognize the importance of women’s influence and diversity, and intelligence.  Hopefully this is starting to change, but happens way too slowly as far as I’m concerned.  In every day life and work, unfortunately it is still man dominated, and male run.  And even when there are women in authoritative positions in the work place, they are still ridiculed, mocked, downgraded and called a bitch by male and sometimes female employees.



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      Tammy Slater-Kendrick wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • Unfortunately, I don’t think we’ll see a reversal of this trend in OUR lifetimes (maybe our daughters will, though). The best way to beat the system is to work for yourself and make more than they do (better yet, hire them to work for you)!



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      Deanna Moon wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • The double standard in this country makes me sick.  It’s OK and applauded when a male employer or supervisor is a prick and a hard ass, they call him “Assertive” and “gets the job done” and “doesn’t take any shit” “A real go-getter”  When he’s actually a Mysogenistic bastard who probably sexually harasses all the women, and if his advances aren’t appreciated or scoffed at by the woman, he’ll go around spreading rumours that she’s either a lesbian, a whore, or that he’s screwed her.  A woman could never get away with that, we‘re called Bitches, Sluts, Dykes, Lesbians,man haters, and anything else derrogatory that men come up with, and then the actual “Assertive” woman gets made to feel second class, again.



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      Deanna Moon wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • LOL right on Tammy!  I’d love to be able to turn the tables on them, someday..estatic



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      Angell VillafaƱe wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • Never say never! It could happen one day. You are so right though Deanna...when women do get in positions of power they are degraded and scoffed at...they don’t get the same respect men get. Alot of times women in authority tend to be more aggressive and assertive because they feel they need to be that way to get ahead or get their points across or to feel equal to their male counterparts so they tend to come across as bitchy...its what they feel they have to be to get respect...unfortunately most times it has the opposite affect. I work with several women in authority positions here at my job and they all are the same way...they don’t get much respect and are talked about behind their backs.



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      Deanna Moon wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • And for the record, I have been sexually harassed on the job in the past, declined all his advances, told the boss and was still subjected to all of the above lies, in a male dominated business.  I had to leave the job because it was just a good ol’ boys club and I was made out to be the bad guy and I couldn’t take it anymore.



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      Janet Wooley wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • I smell a lawsuit sister.Harrassment in any form is unacceptable. Get a good Female lawyer,hit em where it hurts.



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      Lazylola wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • After nearly 9 years as the only female in my office working with not so bright men (it’s the oilfield, sometimes all they have to do is breathe and pass a piss test)I understand what you are talking about. I was called the bitch for a long time, I’m sure behind my back it was probably more so than to my face. I took it in stride, and over the years got the respect I deserved, over all in the oil & gas industry which is mainly a male dominated industry I did well. I gave as much as they did, and I would make them eat their words and apologize for their stupidity, of course when I’d call them on it, the name calling would begin, over the years they realized they needed me so they all came around. My boss is in the corporate office, 6 hours away and I don’t have to answer to anyone in the local office. So when they need my help I get my ass kissed big time. I hate that part of it, but I do like that they realize that I may not be as strong as they are, but I’m damn smarter than they are. Since I’ve been on medical leave I wonder how they are doing without me. Must be okay since no one has called me.



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      Angelcart wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • Deanna - I used to ALWAYS have this argument with my dad about “double standards“.  He used to say, “It’s a mans world and you better get used to it.  I know it’s not fair but that’s the way it is“.  He would always listen to me but it was always the same reply.  LOL  He was a very loving father and he always told me I need to “get thick skin” when I was younger.  It used to really piss me off but I now know what he was trying to teach me.  I’ve been sexually harrassed on the job before as I’m sure lot’s of us have.  I actually had my boss at one job look me up from head to toe which really made me feel uneasy and then he said “you can’t weigh but what? 105 lbs. in your bra and panties?“.  Ughhh!  Can you beleive!  I took “it” because I was single raising my son and the job paid well.  Well needless to say he pushed me too far and when I brought it up to HR, guess who got “layed off“.  I’m sure I had a lawsuit but never pursued.  Looking back, I sure could have used the money!



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      Cynthia Schmidt wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • One thing that concerns me is that women who make it to high positions don’t do enough to bring other women with them. I have had female supervisors who worked hard to get where they were and then adopted the same attitude as the men who were in their peer group. I don’t know if it was because they felt threatened by other women, they felt they had to “play the game” in a move of self preservation or they truly didn’t care to help other women reach higher levels just as they did.

      When I talk with my husband about this stuff he thinks I’m crazy. He doesn’t think that women are mistreated any more at all. He feels the scales have tipped in the other direction and it’s men who are mistreated and left behind when it comes to opportunity.

      I of course disagree with him.



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      Gemini Schubert wrote Aug 12, 2009
    • It was a man’s world and then EVE came along. It was never a man’s world ever since. There. Enjoy ladies!



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      Vikki Hall wrote Aug 13, 2009
    • Great subject! We need to support more women in leadership roles. I know Hilary may have negatives against her but she knows how to play in the mans world. We need more women like that to get the doors firmly held open. We need more women publishers in magazines, TV, Movies and newspapers. And not just in charge of the womens sections either.

      I always support women 1st unless there is a big reason not too. I realize for me it may not help but I do have 2 daughters....



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