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  • Another "C-student" President?

    50 posts, 14 voices, 824 views, started Oct 30, 2008

    Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008

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      Barack Obama:  

       Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
      Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

      Joseph Biden:
      University of Delaware - B.A. in History and
      B.A. in Political Science.
      Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

      vs.

      John McCain:
      United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

      Sarah Palin:
      Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
      North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
      University of Idaho - 2 semesters -journalism
      Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
      University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

      Now, some might argue that education ain’t everrry thang, but, DAMN! We already tried it with a c-student and, well, the results speak for themselves. And who’s running the better campaign?

      I mean . . . I’m just sayin’



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Hey bfly..you took my saying...lol...(I’m just saying)...lol

          I saw those stats a few weeks ago...yeah they speak for themselves...



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • But come on...You do want someone who has more than a HS diploma (exaggeration here..lol) running the country, don’t you?

          I saw somewhere where it was said that Sen. Obama was too young to be a president...I was like...Say What?..I think there is a baseline age criteria, but obviously he fit that criteria so why was age brought into it?...and I’m just saying too...(smile)



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • annie..You are absolutely right on this one...

          But I do still agree that education is an important factor...If Sen. Obama were as uneducated as his other opponents appear to be, there would be so much more negative things said about him, he really wouldn’t stand a chance in some eyes, not that he does anyway...

          And yes, I personally know people who hold degrees in something or another and are not working in the fields that they hold the degrees in...All that money spent..lol



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          Bobbi Bacha wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Sarab, your correct, the “presidency is what you do with your smarts.  It is about character and conviction and vision.”  I agree with this.  

          The presidency was established to be available to any American from Any Background, any Race, any Gender, and any education Level to run for for office..  It was made to be held by an average American, not imperialistic or royalties of Europe.  

          The Presidency was created for the People to be run by the people.

          Bravo.. great point.

          Peeper, youve got my vote.

          Teeky your right about qualifications for a job having to fit job description.  

          I think all the candidates fit the job description and are all qualified.  

          Lets go Vote !



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          Darla5 wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Ok Ladies..No matter who you vote for. Think about this...

          Bill Clinton was a visionary, well educated, I do believe it was Harvard. All of that and he still could not keep it in his pants...  Pure Romance had a post about that this morning... Or WAIT.... was that Monica???  Teeky, got your hammer???

          SMILES LADIES!!!!

          Peeper- You Go Girl!!!!!!!!



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          Bobbi Bacha wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Darla, I know what is it with men and Zipper problems.. really.



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          Darla5 wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Thanks peeper for the correction. I knew it was some Ivy league school.

          How about... Vote for Peeper, she is a real keeper... Ok, I will keep trying. Give me an  A for effort.

          Can you still hear the cheerleader come out of me from years ago?



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • That’s why I said I know who I’m voting for....me..me..pick me..lol!!!

          Darla..lol...that’s some cheer you’ve got there..lol



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • All seriousness though...This is a tough one because each of the candidates have their own unique flaws..It all depends on the individual and what their ‘deal breakers’ are!!



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          Bobbi Bacha wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Darla5, Peeper, so funny.. I like the slogan.  

          Again, I repeat:

          The presidency was established to be available to any American from Any Background, any Race, any Gender, and any education Level to run for for office..  It was made to be held by an average American, not imperialistic or royalties of Europe.  

          The Presidency was created for the People to be run by the people.

          Vote Your Hearts, issues and convictions.

          Hail to the next President of the USA



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          Mztracy wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Just listening to Obanma talk helps me. He is a cool head. McCain...not so much.  

          Does education matter...in the White House, a good poly sci education is a pretty good pre-req. A college degree in journalism, not gonna help much. It really depends on what you went to school for and what your career is.  

          I have a business degree, not gonna try and become a doctor. Make sense?  

          IMHO...Obama has the right education for the job he is applying...in laymans terms.

          I mean really...Look at Bush and look at our country. What was his major! History, was his major. He was a C student. Must not have learned much, as those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.  

          Why do we go to college? We go to college to further our education in the field of work we want to do.  

          McCain, military
          Palin, Journalism...finally
          Obama, poly sci
          Biden, poly-sci

          Nuff said...



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          Mztracy wrote Nov 1, 2008
        • Annie, i understand what you are saying. But. really,  having no degree and owning a cothing store is a far cry from being a military man and/or having a degree in journalism and running a country. :)

          bfly, gr8 post!!



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          Mztracy wrote Nov 1, 2008
        • Move on? We are having a discussion that someone had questions about.  

          Bush made it minus any talent and smarts.  

          bfly started this post, so there is no need to move on. She had something to say and telling us all to move on is not very cool! Saying move on sounds like what she had to say is not important. To her, and to the ones discussing it, it is important. IMO!



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          Michelle Rowe wrote Nov 1, 2008
        • I personally am stumped over who to vote for. I do know that I am voting No on prop 8. Anyone else?



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          Mztracy wrote Nov 1, 2008
        • Well as for Bush, he got there thanks to his genes. He got where he is due to good ‘marketing’ And not all voted for him, in fact most did not, technically he won the presidency by the supreme court.  

          As for your question sarab, Are you saying that the people of Texas and the citizens of America repeatedly elected a dummy? Please.  

           NO! Again, the Supreme court did, due the voter fraud. And, Please do not try and be condescending to me.  

          Annie, you are so right, sometimes things never have a productive outcome. Thanks for always being polite in our disagreements. It is quite refreshing!



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          Mztracy wrote Nov 2, 2008
        • When I said ‘genes’ yes that included the monies too. !pic(image description)!

          sarab, ty for the apology. It is hard over the internet to see or feel ones emotions! !pic(image description)!

          My next rant, if you will, is very near and dear to me and gets me a lil emotional. So please excuse me if I come off harsh in any way!

          The comment regarding Bush on AIDS relief, is, well, not quite true. !pic(image description)! And I am sayng this in a very nice way! lol He said he would stand strong regarding the laws allowing certain rights for people with AIDS. When it came time to actually back it up, he did not:

          Two months after Congress voted to repeal the ban on HIV-positive travelers to the United States, the Department of Homeland Security announced yesterday that it will issue regulations which purport to "streamline" the waiver application process for HIV-positive short-term visitors, the national group Immigration Equality says in a press statement. The move comes nearly two years after President Bush directed the agency to streamline the process and fails to follow Congress' mandate to end the ban.

          "The timing of these regulations is deeply troubling," said Victoria Neilson, legal director of Immigration Equality. "In July, Congress issued a bipartisan message to this Administration -- remove HIV as a barrier to travel and immigration. Instead of simply ending the HIV travel ban, the Administration is again treating HIV differently from any other medical condition."

          The recent move comes after a statutory repeal of the ban that was part of the reauthorization of the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), a bill that won approval by large majorities in the House and Senate and was signed into law by President Bush in July. However, a regulatory change is needed to completely lift the ban; meanwhile, the HIV travel ban continues to be enforced. The regulations issued yesterday do not end the ban.

          "I am disappointed that the Administration has decided to move ahead and finalize this rule to clarify the visa waiver process for HIV positive short term visitors to the United States," said Rep. Barbara Lee, a California Democrat who led the repeal effort in the House of Representatives. "The rule itself remains fundamentally flawed because it is grounded on an unjust and discriminatory policy that has no basis in public health."

          Under the new rules, a short-term traveler must meet 12 stringent criteria that impose unnecessary burdens on HIV-positive travelers and continue to stigmatize those living with HIV. Some criteria are inconsistent with current medical knowledge of HIV transmission and treatment.

          Additionally, a traveler who avails himself or herself of the waiver must give up the right to apply for a green card from within the United States -- even if he or she marries a U.S. citizen. By DHS's own account, the "streamlining" provided by this rule simply shaves off 18 days in processing time by allowing Department of State consular officers to make decisions on waivers without sending them to DHS for approval.

          "We are on the eve of lifting this ban once and for all. Why is the Administration setting new waiver requirements in stone now?," asked Neilson. "The time has come for this Administration to finish the job that Congress started this summer. It's time to lift the HIV ban."

          Congresswoman Lee added: "The Administration has acknowledged that it is taking steps to remove HIV from the list of diseases that trigger automatic inadmissability into the United States. Rather than continuing forward with this unnecessary and potentially harmful visa waiver process rule, the president should actively work to ensure that his Administration eliminates HIV from this disease list before he leaves office in January."

          Immigration Equality has been a longtime national leader in the fight to lift the HIV travel ban. As the only national organization dedicated to advancing equal immigration rights for the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and HIV-positive community, Immigration Equality worked for years in a concerted effort to lift the ban that included advocacy, public education, and legal assistance.  

          I follow this as my friend, more like a sister, and her 8 year old son have AIDS. Since meeting her 7 years ago I deal with many AIDS sufferers. I can tell you when all of this happened it hurt many awesome, strong, people. My girl is very big in the Awareness circle for AIDS. Her son, has been in the spotlight since he was 1 yr old. When it comes to the laws, fairness, and even Bush she is the one to ask. She was a huge Bush supporter, believing all the hype etc. Talk about watching someones eyes go dark. Bush looks good on paper, but when it comes time to act, he disappears!



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