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  • Fear Mongering

    33 posts, 19 voices, 761 views, started Nov 6, 2008

    Posted on Thursday, November 6, 2008

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      I have a problem with something.  The last couple of months of this campaign there was a lot of talk of fear.  John McCain played on the fears of Americans to try to get them to vote for him instead of the supposed socialist leaning, terrorist affiliated Barack Obama.  Both he and Sarah Palin played on those fears.  Now here is the part I don’t get.  How can he now ask people to back Barack Obama?  His speech was very gracious but somewhat disingenuous.  How can you tell people that this man affiliates himself with terrorists one day then the next day tell them that they need to now support him as the next president of the US?
      If I were a Republican who believed everything John McCain and Sarah Palin had said I’d be very confused right now. I’d feel betrayed. How can they back this man who some of them think is the epitome of evil?
      Their anger is misplaced though.  Some people are scared and angry that Barack Obama is now our President Elect.  They should be angry at Senator John McCain for the blatant lies and insinuations his camp led people to believe.  I can’t believe there’s not more of a backlash about this in the media. I really think John McCain owes the American people an apology for scaring them for no reason.  The world is a scary enough place without the leaders of our nation scaring us into voting for them.



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          Mztracy wrote Nov 6, 2008
        • I agree, but remember, someone wrote that for him. You really think he would have come up with that?  

          I just hope, that in someway he meant it and ‘his’ people listened!



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 6, 2008
        • I think this is a highly interesting question, and I hope that some of those members who were in so much support of McCain will speak up and share their feelings on this.



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          Kmarie wrote Nov 8, 2008
        • You‘re question really made me reflect thank you. I spent a lot of my ealrier years working with cmapaigns of all types. Historically it happens all the time, but it has always angered me. Negative campaign has turned campaigns around. Gossip, rumors, etc... has turned the tide, but it is wrong. Good elected officals have won races doing the same thing but so have many bad one’s. We inflame the masses of voters with fear. Then at the end we act like it did not happen. It is good to know that it bothers someone else too.



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 8, 2008
        • I know that Susie (nycmom) started this thread with the intention of engaging in discussion. She’s out of town right now, however, and probably won’t be back until at least Monday.

          teresa, I really appreciate your outspokenness regarding why you don’t support Obama. In fact, there are several policies in which I don’t agree with him either, although he was/is my choice for President, based on the options available to me.

          Susie may correct me when she comes back, but I kind of think the question was referring to the obvious false accusations made and/or encouraged by McCain and his party, like the allegation that Obama is not a citizen and was withholding his birth certificate; or that he holds terrorist ties. Things of that nature.

          While I recognize from your comments that you are not an Obama supporter, do you have any thoughts about these claims that were made during the campaign that proved to be at the very least of little merit, or even flat-out untrue?



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          Shopgirl1960 wrote Nov 10, 2008
        • SARAB I quote YOU and totally agree!!!

          Mr McCain did not say that he now agrees with Obama on the issues – he does not. But, he recognizes Obama as a legitimate winner who now deserves a chance to lead. You can respect the office of the presidency without agreeing with the views of its occupant. That is the beauty of our system. We can make fundamental political changes in leadership without gunfire and riots. Mr. McCain was supporting the orderly and peaceful transition of power, not surrenduring his right to debate the new president on the issues.  

            

          There is a time for campaigning and a time for governing. It is now time to govern.



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          Cindy Stewart Penkoff wrote Nov 10, 2008
        • First of the refusal to help a baby.  There is already a law on the books that takes care of that.  The bill that he voted no to had other mitigating facts in it, that made it impossible to vote yes to.  By voting no, they in no way took away the rights of that baby or the ability for a doctor to save it. The law already was there to protect it.

          You have to look at the entire bill and listen to the entire reason.



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          Bobbi Bacha wrote Nov 10, 2008
        • First I cant speak for Republican’s because Im not one.  Im a Libertarian.  As such, I have to say truthfully that Ive seen fear mongering in both camps, and on the flip side Ive seen vote for me and Ill give you the Moon promises too, both camps.

          If someone trys to put fear in your mind over anything you must stop and look to see if the fear is a real threat or just a threat to cause a predicted reaction.  VOTING BASED ON A THREAT OF FEAR IS WRONG (unless the threat is real).  On the flip side, when someone is selling something, again you must stop and look at the merchandise and decide if its what you need.  VOTING ON THE PREMISE OF GETTING SOMETHING IS WRONG. (unless you think its true).

          NYCMOM, to answer your question, I think people in both camps realize that its just politics as usual, and they are used to this type of thing in every election. (your right people should be angry with the fear and false promises, but its politics).  

          I think those that voted for McCain believed the threat could be real and if they didnt they voted for a party or for other ideas of his that they agreed with, just because you vote for someone, dosent mean you like everything about that candidate or all they stand for.

          Teresawashere, does not speak for all republicans, only for herself which confuses me because she wrote a blog recently saying she wasent a racist and had her friends defend her viewpoints (she did not) then the blog was locked it was called “Im not a racist” if anyone wants to read what she wrote. I think there are radicals in every camp.

          I live in Texas and many republicans are here and I havent heard a word negative about Obama as they seem to be looking to the future.  There will be radicals in any party with any election loosers.

          I went to a NASA luncheon (dems and repulicans) and everyone lifted glasses to salute our new president, so Im not seeing anger here in Texas.. just hope of the future.

          I agree with Annie, in the spirit of moving forward.. lets move forward and look at the brand new day’s ahead.  Sarab and Shopgirl very good points and NYCMOM, good question.  We all should ask that question when faced with fear.    

          America has selected our President and he has an opportunity to make change.  Just as the Presidents before him.. I have great hope for our future.  

          And by the way, Im a MUTT TOO... Obama, recently said he was a Mutt and that just touched me.. love it.



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          Maryann13090 wrote Jun 6, 2009
        • Just curious, with all of the bailouts, increased taxes and Congressional shortsightedness ... Do you all feel any fear now?  

          Our leaders, from the President on down to every member of Congress and the Senate are so out of touch with the lives of the rest of us that I am fearful not just for the future of this nation, but for the future of my children.

          America is lost and our President is working day to day trying to put bandaids on everything instead of long term answers.  We do this same thing with education, just throw money at it and it will get better, well, it’s not working there either.



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