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  • From Peri to Post let's talk about it

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    27 posts, 16 voices, 1452 views, started Mar 23, 2010

    Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 by Cynthia Schmidt




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      Whatever stage of menopause we‘re in, just starting to have symptoms to being long over it, let’s share so we can help each other through it. Some of us have used bio identical hormones. Some of us have just toughed it out. Some have menopause brought on by surgical procedures. Some just came into it naturally. What is so amazing to me is there is no cookie cutter peri-menopause.

      But in our generation we talk about it. Our mother’s didn’t; they just dabbed their sweaty faces with a hankie or, in my mom’s case, put cold water on their faces and changed their blouse.

      What stage are you in and how are you dealing with it?

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          Peggle wrote Mar 23, 2010
        • I started noticing peri symptoms (hot flashes, changes in my cycle, etc.) in my late thirties, but dr’s kept telling me i was ‘too young.’ Ha.  

          Once I hit 40, things got a lot worse... heavy (clots!) and very painful periods, going off-schedule (two weeks late, two weeks early, skip a month, then have two in one month etc.). Things have evened out a little more this past year (I’m now 43), but now I’m having the emotional stuff and the fatigue you mentioned.  

          I had a terrible bout of depression with my last period (thank God my husband is tremendously understanding, and I have wonderfully supportive girlfriends!). My view is that this is a normal process, but I am already tired of it and concerned about how it affects my life. I cannot work a full-time job because I am out of commission at least three days a month, and my family is surely affected by my lack of energy and bouts of depression.  

          All the info out there is kind of confusing and complicated. I am trying to eat better (whole foods), sleep more, practice stress-reduction (yoga, breathing, meditation), gentle exercise (walking, yoga), and cognitive-behavioral therapy to deal with some internal junk (wow, does meno bring out our “junk?!“).  

          But wow, there are times when I think “enough!” I can certainly understand why many women at this stage of life will go on antidepressants, hormones, etc. I am tempted by both, but not sure my dr is well informed about these things in relation to peri/meno at all.  

          I think it’s important for women to share. Many of my friends are turning 40 right behind me, and they are blind-sided by this stuff becuase no one prepared them or warned them. I asked my own mother about her experience. She said of course it was not something women talked about back then, but as far as she remembers, she turned 50, periods stopped, and that was all. I suspect she was going through more than she realizes, but didn’t make the connnection.



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          Trudy S wrote Mar 23, 2010
        • I turned 45 in January and the next week I started having irregular and heavy periods.  I was one of those lucky women who you could set your watch by - 28.5 days every month - and light.

          After three times of having only 19 days between periods I contacted my Doc who did and endometrial biopsy.  Thankfully, no cancer (yes, that was one possibility) but definite thickening of the uterus.

          Now she wants to ” do 10 days of medroxyprogesterone, a progestational agent that mimics what the body does with ovulating, for 10 days for each of the next 3 mo and see if we can shed the excess lining and then have more normal periods. If this helps great. If it helps but then recurs you may need to consider birth control pills or being on it more regularly. I sent the order. Let me know over the next 2-3 mo how you are doing.”

          So here’s my conundrum.  I have been ‘managing’ my PMS issues with my diet (Isagenix has an amazing shake esp. for women that completely ‘cured’ my mood swings!). The periods are inconvenient but not debilitating.

          I suggested I use a natural topic progesterone cream rather than a chemical equivalent.

          Her response was “IF you can put up with it OK though if the endometrium is proliferative phase for a long time then ones worries that it can lead to precancerous changes over time.”

          WOW!  From peri-menopause to possible cancer.

          I don’t know what to do.  Do I push the natural alternatives or go with her suggestion.  Do I ask for a second opinion?

          Any suggestions ladies?????



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          Cynthia Schmidt wrote Mar 23, 2010
        • Trudy does she really feel this is a health issue that needs to be treated or is it just your own body’s natural peri-menopause taking place? It sounds like there is risk of cancer for you - maybe family history? But I know that heavy periods happen for some women in peri-menopause.



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          Trudy S wrote Mar 23, 2010
        • OK - so for less than my Dr. co-pay, I just got a second opinion at “JustAsk.com“!

          This is the fourth time I’ve used this service and it is TOTALLY worth it!!

          Here is what Dr. Wilson just advised:

          You can try the progesterone, but most likely what you are experiencing is perimenopausal bleeding - and even after the progesterone the bleeding will more than likely continue to be heavy - so you might want to consider a Mirena IUD, birth control pills, or even a thermal ablation such as NovaSure (see www.novasure.com).  

          An IUD - is an IntraUterine Device - which is a small T shape device placed in the uterus and the Mirena version would be the recommended version of the 2 that are available and you can find this at www.mirena.com
          The thermal ablation - this is a a 'burning' or cauterizing of the inside of the uterus and this will stop your bleeding - see www.novasure.com - this is just one of many techniques for thermal ablation - but it is one of the most recommended.

          You can also just do NOTHING - but this is up to you since your biopsy was normal. You never have to do anything that you do not want - with a normal biopsy, it is a matter of annoyance to YOU - so if you do not mind the heavy bleeding - then you can do nothing or have your ob/gyn help you out.
          There is no such thing as too long - time is really irrelevant when you have a normal biopsy.

          Anyone here have any experience with any of these options?

          He seems to be so clear.  My Primary just didn’t give me that clear an answer!



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          Trudy S wrote Mar 23, 2010
        • My mother has had double breast cancer (mastectomies) and my aunt (my mother’s sister) died of liver cancer and my grandfather died at 82 of complications from colon cancer.  So, yes, there is cancer in the family but not uterine cancer.

          I just feel so against all the chemicals we put in our bodies...and honestly am not terribly trusting of doctors....they seem so rushed these days that they go with what is easy rather than what is right for each individual.

          I have spent so many years ‘cleaning up’ my body that I really just don’t want to start adding ‘cr@p‘.

          I am not bothered by the heavy periods...yet.  I’m just torn...the big ‘C’ is a scary thought.



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          Cynthia Schmidt wrote Mar 23, 2010
        • I know it’s a tough thing to have choose what to do when we get into these changes. I have cancer in my family too but only on my dad’s side. Although, everyone on his side had cancer; the entire family. I’m dilligent about my screenings. Maybe a second opinion would either ease your mind or help you to decide on some type of drug therapy.



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          Trudy S wrote Mar 23, 2010
        • for some reason my 2nd post came up above my 1st post!!



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          Denise Richardson wrote Jun 16, 2010
        • I began peri around 30 yrs. of age so said my doctor when will it all end lol????



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          Linni wrote Jun 16, 2010
        • well, thank goodness i JUST started perimenopuase like last year! so im ready for it all to be over!

          Trudy, what did you finally decide to do?
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          Cynthia Schmidt wrote Jun 16, 2010
        • Linni, we‘re here to support each other. Some women just sail through it with no symptoms and some, like me, have had a bad time with it. There’s no easy answer - just what works for each individual person. How are you feeling so far?



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          Cocofix41 wrote Jun 16, 2010
        • Wow im reading all your posts and some of your symptoms sound like what i go through, and my obgyn also recommended to me either the IUD Mirena or the Thermal ablation as well which im contemplating but the jury is still out  for me.
          Definitly definitly NOT the Mirena though, thats my persoanl feeling ofcourse from my family history of breast cancer .

          Good luck to you though and I wish that I had some magical answer for you as to what would be the best option.



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          Karyn Olson wrote Jun 16, 2010
        • I am still having my periods as usual...that hasn’t changed...but I do notice the hot flashes...I don’t get them all the time...but when I do it is generally in the evening...and this month I got my period twice...I just finished them then two weeks later started up again...I just finished them yesterday when in reality I should be starting them some time this weekend...that has NEVER happened to me before...Although I am not looking forward to getting older I am looking forward to not having my periods anymore...the hot flashed don’t really bother me...at least not at this point...but I have heard from other women that they can get pretty bad...tongue out



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          Hbrose wrote Jun 16, 2010
        • I didn’t have my period for a year and thought I was done. But just as I was approaching the 1 year mark it came back! and now its been 7-months since I’ve had it!  the past few years I have had hot-flashes off and on, and now it seems more often. they drive me nuts!



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          Suzann wrote Jun 16, 2010
        • I guess I’m lucky. I started with the hot flashes about 6 years ago, and they were almost funny because they were so textbook. Sweating through an outfit in the middle of winter, waking up in the middle of the night looking like a bucket of water had been poured all over me and the bed. Amazing stuff.  

          My granddaughter thought it was hilarious that during that time I had to put my makeup on with my head virtually stuck in the freezer.  

          I took some “Black Cohosh” from the health food store, and that really did help the hot flashes, although you‘re not supposed to take it for an extended period of time. (Don’t take anything without checking with your doc. I checked with my doc.)

          Anyway, flash (no pun intended) forward however many years, and here I am, in full menopause, no hot flashes, nothing. I mean, my bones aren’t doing so good, but the doc. has given me some prescription Vitamin D, so we’ll see what happens with that.

          I’m happy. I LOVE being older.



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          Linni wrote Jun 17, 2010
        • Cynthia, i feel good... im not getting many hot flashes this year.. LAST year was terrible.. i was getting them at different times of the day, and when id wake up in the morning drenched, i tried to blame it on having the heat too high! lol but, like i said, this last year i have been better about not having them... When they diagnosed my diabetes, they also found im lacking in  Vit D so i take a VIT D pill once a month...



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          Veggie wrote Jun 17, 2010
        • I haven’t had a period for about 3yrs now. estaticestaticestatic

          BUT, hot flashes, mood swings, depression (I’ve always been prone to depression) so that was kind-of expected.

          Periods were always like clockwork & light, so I was lucky that way, but the moods were killers for me (and everyone around me) during PMS.

          I started noticing changes probably around my early 40s (now 52).

          Right around the time my period stopped, I remember not being able to sleep!  I would be up 24-30hrs straight & even started thinking I was really going crazy this time.. bipolar?  or something.  Thank goodness that passed!

          It’s my belief that the last 7yrs have been the toughest and looking back, I can now put all the blame on hormones ohhhh  Just in the past year I can see that I am starting to ‘come out of it‘.  It’s been rough emotionally.

          I too have been ‘winging it’ and do not like the idea of hormone replacement.  A couple of years ago I tried Estroven?? (something I found at Sams).  At that time I didn’t like how I felt & thought maybe I wasn’t ready for it and stopped.

          Mentioning it to my GYN she did give me a list of vitamins to take which I never followed through with tongue out  I think I didn’t follow through because of my experience with the Estrovin?  I don’t know!!



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          Cynthia Schmidt wrote Jun 17, 2010
        • I know what you mean about “coming out of it.” My husband’s sister, last year, said the same thing. She was finally feeling “normal” in years. Another relative said the same thing. She gained weight with perimenopause but kept up with exercising and eating right through the whole process. She said that when her hormones balanced themselves out, she lost 29 pounds without changing a thing.



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          Linni wrote Jun 17, 2010
        • Oh my goodness... i just had a thought.. i wonder if part of this depression is from the PM, and NOT just the grief im going through? maybe a combo of both?
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          Kyah wrote Jun 20, 2010
        • I thought I posted to this thread, oh well....frown

          Yes, hot flashes, mood swings, chin hairs (ewww), hair thinning and weight gain. I was always stick thin all the way through until my late 40s, then BAM! From size 9/10 to size 14. Luckily I’m 5‘10” so I’m actually at my proper weight for my height, just need to lose the gut.



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          Kisbel65 wrote Aug 22, 2010
        • Anyone dealing with anxiety and insomina during peri, does it get better when you go through menopause?



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          Denise Richardson wrote Aug 22, 2010
        • I don’t know what to call mine, I wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, I’m noticing I’m having to do that more frequently as well, and have a hard time going back to sleep. At this point now I haven’t had a period since April of this year so I guess I’m in Menopause and no longer Peri-menopause.ohhhhworriedhappy



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          Cynthia Schmidt wrote Jun 11, 2011
        • V, I just left you a comment on your page.estatic



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          Cathie Beck wrote Jun 12, 2011
        • Mz V, there’s solutions available, so talk to your doctor. Myself, I can’t use any chemical compounds because of my health issue so I did try some herbs called, “Change-O-Life” for the hot flashes and found that while it did not stop the hot flashes, I was in a real cheerful mood when I took them. ;oD  

          Cathie



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          Marya1961 wrote Jun 12, 2011
        • I had menopause (so they say) through a complete hysterectomy...but as far as I am concerned, I still get hot flashes, feel moody at times (thank God for anti-depressants/anxiety meds), bloating...I am toughing it out without hormone replacement, which works o.k. for me.



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