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  • How do you feel when people mention religion in posts?

    142 posts, 44 voices, 2428 views, started Jan 31, 2009

    Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009

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      This topic was discussed as a tangent recently, but I think there can be a further discussion here. The question is really in regards to posts that don't have a religious theme.

      This post is not a place to argue but a place to express your view. All opinions are accepted and none are wrong. Please keep it nice.



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Annie, am I correct in assuming you mean any kind of comment related to faith, such as references to God, prayer, scripture, etc?



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          Mztracy wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Annie and BB you hit the nail on the head for me!! Ditto Ditto



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Okay. Well, I am one who probably does that very thing a lot, so it stands to reason that it wouldn’t bother me.  

          Now what you all are talking about, when someone becomes condescending and judgmental, it bothers me too. but it also bothers me when any kind of differing point of view, whether religious or not, becomes condescending. I think it’s disrespectful.

          Otherwise, talk about what ever you want!estatic



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          Linni wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • well, im guilty as charged, and won’t change the way i am.. i do not think i come on too strong, and if i do i hope people pm me so we can discuss it



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Linni, I’ve never known you to come across strong, but then I might not recognize it in myself.



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          Tamra wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • I am somewhat spiritual.  So as long as it’s respectful,  I am ok with religious overtones, even if I am not of that particular faith.  But it should be relevant to the discussion, not just thrown in to “evangelize” the world.  

          I have referred to my faith in some posts when I felt it added to the commentary.  Especially when it’s one of the tools I use to deal with a problem or situation we are discussing.

          But let’s face it....we‘re never gonna convince someone our view is the “right” one if we try to bully them into thinking our way.  In fact, that approach is in conflict with most religions anyway.  Gotta keep the “LOVE” in it!



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          Mztracy wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • nope linni u rock



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Personally, I try to see who is the starter of the post.  For experience with those who have been awhile, I kind of know of their religion preferences.  So I try to target to the audiences (i.e. that starter).  

          I hope I did not upset anyone and I did not mean to shuffle my religion point of view into others.  I rather lead by example.  Please PM me if I cross the line.



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • I feel like I need to add something. I know that there are those on this site of varying belief systems. And some have stated that they do not believe in God. As a human being, we all have the freedom to choose what we believe.

          To those with whom I do not share the same belief system, I wish to say I hope that you never take offense with my faith references. I would never  try to impose my beliefs on you, nor desire to make you feel less important, less adequate, less valuable because we believe differently. I don't know if I'm saying this clearly. If you are ever offended by one of my remarks or comments, please PM me so we can have a conversation about it. I try to be sensitive to our differences.  

          In love,
          Cindy



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          Linni wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • im glad i don’t.. i would never purposely offend anyone..  

          my last post sounded sarcastic,and definsive, and i didn’t mean for it to sound that way... sorry..

          xx



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Tamra, I totally agree!



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          Jean Walter wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • I personally do not have a problem with any of it!!

          To Each Their Own!!

          =)



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • The thing is the Spiritual side of me is part of me.  I cannot separate that for it formed me and made me.  Much to ponder upon before I say more... thank you.



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Thanks, BB, I appreciate that!

          Minnow, you are such a sweetheart!



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          Cheryl Guy wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • I like the way you said it minnow. I’m with you.



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          Cynthia Schmidt wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • I don’t have a problem with it. If it comes on too strong, I just don’t read through it. And when I hear Linni and Cindy express anything of a spiritual nature, I hear the joy in their post. It makes me smile. Anyone who, as Minnow said, has great faith, well I think the world just gets better with people like that in it. And that means great faith of any and all religions. As people they are, in my eyes, of great quality. Months ago there was a member who was posting a scripture of the day. But, in her other posts, she had a very caustic quality to her. She was rude. She was definitely not a person of high quality. Her blogs were preaching in nature but then her actual personality that came through all through this site was just downright toxic. I think right now the ladies who express themselves in a religious nature also have respect for the other members of all faiths.



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          Jomi wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • I don’t have a problem with it.  I sometimes express myself.  However, I would never belittle anyone else for their beliefs. Nor would I try to change someone elses beliefs!
          I believe in respecting all people, just because I don’t like to be dissed!
          Love ya all!



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          UK Girl wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Minnnowour view is just like mine and when I hear Linni & Coachmom mention their faith ... its like a shining light around their words.

          I’m very quiet about my faith but I do like to read other peoples posts about their faith first I respect their faith and second I’ve always learnt something - the reason I love this site is you learn something new everyday .



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Annie: do you have a post for us so we can sort of reference and ponder upon?  Send us the link so it is more concrete.  Not to point finger but to analyze, okay?



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • I think it’s a worthwhile question, Annie. I hope we hear from some more women.

          Thanks!



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Annie: “how do the people who participate in less public religious beliefs feel about public displays of religion?“... in other words, how do people who is more modest feel about nudist beach.  Can I use this analogy and ponder upon?



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Interesting comparison, CD! ;o)



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • And just wonder if it feels close to the question with that analogy first before I start drilling?  Thanks.



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          Cindylouwho1966 wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • I only have a problem if someone goes off on a tirade, or when it’s being used to belittle someone else’s opinion. Yesterday, someone who did not agree with a very vocal member of the site wrote, “I PRAY for you.” That was not meant in a Christian, loving way IMO, it was meant as-you are contemptible and need prayer to make you a better person.



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • CD, I think that analogy could work. I’m thinking on it to see if I might come up with another one.

          Lu, I agree. There are times I’ve encountered comments that belied a less loving tone. I tend to steer clear of those remarks and conversations once they take that turn.



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          Deb Darby wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Annie (and everyone else). Our beliefs come out in our words and actions. For me, who’s not Buddhist or pagan (for example) to try to “check” my beliefs that might conflict with another’s before I post something, would be extremely stifling. I recognize that there are others who believe differently than I do, and I’m sure everyone wants to be honest. It sounds like most of us are open to hearing other womens’ beliefs, but maybe you‘re not, Annie. You sound pretty uncomfortable. There’s got to be one or two particular posts that have bothered you. I’m pretty new, but I truly love that everyone I’ve seen on here seems to really care about each other.



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Cindylou: I miss that one and I hope it was not me that said that.

          Coach: Yes, please.  Please come up with a different analogy.  The nude one does not look to good in my brain.  It takes me elsewhere, LOL.



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          Cindylouwho1966 wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • No, CD not you. I don’t even think you got on that particular post.

          Cynthia, I remember which former member you mentioned, and you were not kidding.



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          Cindylouwho1966 wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Yes, prayer being used as a form of judgment. Just hit me how ironic that is...



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          Deb Darby wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Well, we’ve been doing alot of praying lately because we want to see people “fixed” physically. Maybe it’s in other areas of our lives being “fixed” that we feel like a line is crossed. Personally, I just want my life to be the best it can be in EVERY way. By the way, thank you ALL for your prayers for Michael. He’s feeling noticeably better today, but not out of the woods yet. He goes to the surgeon on Tuesday.



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          Coachmombabe wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Hold on, Chinadoll. I think you are on to something. Sexuality is a great analogy here, I think. While I’m quite comfortable with my sexuality, and can discuss many issues and nuances related to it, I would never want to give a play by play of my hubby’s and my intimate encounters! And I’m sure no one here would want that either! haha! Anyway, there are differing levels of comfort regarding one’s sexuality just as in sharing details about belief systems.  

          I’m sure that analogy breaks down somewhere, and someone else may have something better.



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          Mztracy wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • That’s what i’m talking about Lu.  

          I hate being prayed for because my beliefs are different than anothers. It’s like well you‘re wrong, so I’ll pray for you. Well hmmmm...maybe I am not the one that needs the prayers. A thought to ponder! tongue out



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 31, 2009
        • Can I say “You will be in my prayers.”  Is that different?



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