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  • Irritated for not be allowed to voice my beliefs... Just bent....

    19 posts, 15 voices, 722 views, started Sep 24, 2008

    Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 by Lilli925

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      Right from the start I do not wish to offend any one in any way,so I am putting this right up front once is enough for the day...
      Anyway where I work, no names, My boss and her husband are a pastor and wife of a local church and they mean well for wanting to have their congregation grow,and they have moments were they become a little zealous. A client came in this afternoon and somehow or another the discussion of religion came up, starting with the client and the pastor, chiming in also,friend of mine,now mind you just about everyone there is a traditional christian and I see nothing wrong with this to each his own. Any who it was discovered that she does not believe in GOD her own opinion,next thing you know everyone went into soul saving mode, I myself just sat there, I knew where this was going. A little time went by when all at once the conversation turn to me. Mind you I was trying desperately to stay out of the discussion. Already been there done that when I first started working there and I have learned to keep my opinions to myself. For myself I believe in the Earth Mother I celebrate the earth and all her wonders,big mistake in this setting... This is why I am so bent... In the past I have tried church, praying to God as I was taught as a child, I myself can not get past the, See what I have and you don’t mode in a lot of churches,the dress codes, fancy cars,ya da ya da ya da..
      This list can go on for ever. Sorry, back to the discussion, next thing you know EVERYONE turns and ask me why I did not belive in God, know it is not the fact that I don’t I am the type of person that has to have physical proof.And all things earth is proof enough for me that something out there is greater then myself, so I go on the God as we understand him mode much easier to wrap around when things get really bad... so to bale out the client I voiced what I thought. Next thing you know, everything I said was not what has been written in the Bible, that I was going to hell,to know him is to be saved, you name it I got hit with it, the pastor even ask if I hate God... I told him the only man/men I had a problem with were my ex’s so now I hated god for being male! If I did not give the right answer, I was wrong and all thing imaginable would happen, or everything I said went against their whole set of beliefs. So I did the next best thing and walked outside to smoke, Hoping things would change by the time I got back,it did the whole church music thing is going on and everyone is proclaiming this that and the other still their beliefs,and that is fine, but it would be nice if everyone would stop freaking out when they figure out I am not a traditional southern christian. As far as they are concerned I worship the Devil and probably eat little kids I don’t know but I am sure of this. What started as a discussion without me in it will last at least a week and I can not get anyone to understand I have not got an opinion one way or another I believe in the simplest thing to get me through the day....
      I have learned to keep my life as simple as possible...



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          Dianne67 wrote Oct 8, 2008
        • I too have a problem with people that are spouting off quotes from the bible and psalms and blah blah blah.  I also hate when I hear that people are told by God to buy a nice car or build a bigger home.  To me it is just a bunch of garbage.  I do believe in a superior being and an after life.  

          I was raised a fearful Catholic.  I was afraid that if I did wrong God would strike me dead.  As I grew up I studied all types of religions and realized how self rightgeous one is to believe that only their belief is true.  I respect all religions as long as they are not hurtful.  

          I found the philosphy of Buddhism to make the most sense.  It is about appreciating what is here on earth.  Treating everything with respect.  Learning to live a life without greed and wanting of everything.  I have found that I have simplified my life and I am happier for it.  So I do agree with you.

          Let’s discuss things further.

          Hugs-
          Dianne



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          Dianne67 wrote Oct 8, 2008
        • I grew up believing in Jesus.  Now I am with a Jewish man and he obviously did not learn the same teachings as me.  I have read much on Judaism and I can share and repect both beliefs.  I will always believe in Saints, especially St. Francis.  We both share an equal respect for each other and celebrate both sets of holidays.  To us Jesus was our savior and to him he was an ordinary man.

          Hugs-
          Dianne

          PS...Please don’t get me wrong and think that people do not have their best intention when offering prayers, I gladly accept it.  There are just times when it is too overwhelming and preachy.



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          Peejay64 wrote Oct 8, 2008
        • Lilli,  

          I agree with absolutely everything Jackie says in her comment.  I am sorry that you feel like you’ve been, in a way, assaulted by Christians in the workplace.  God loves you the way you are and where you are and is just waiting for you to love him back. You said that you need to believe in something simple.  Do you feel that believing in the one, true & loving God is complicated? I’m just wondering.  Not arguing, or provoking...but, like Jackie, I’ll be praying for you too.  God is right there, loving you and waiting for you to love him back.  

          Peace,
          Patti



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          Michelle Bodycombe wrote Oct 9, 2008
        • Lilli925 I feel you.  I too have been in the situation where one christian or another thought they needed to save me. I always tell them...‘save your breath, I don’t need saving‘. They don’t always hear me...but, I have learned not to take them personally.  

          A woman once told me that she had to tell me about the gospel because it was her duty as a christian, my simply reply was...“if you need to do this, fine. As long as you understand that there is absolutely nothing that you or anyone can say to make me change the way I choose to live.”  

          I believe in love and I believe anything is possible.

          I have a question for you...

          Why do you need to get anyone to understand you have not got an opinion one way or another?

          ...love is all there is,only love is real...



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          Almostfive0 wrote Oct 9, 2008
        • Lilli925,
          I have to agree with you,
          I was raised in the Catholic church and my father was a Baptist minister...therapy session please!
          I have also been in the position of being made to feel I have to explain my beliefs from time to time.
          Especially here in the south the first thing people want to know is: Are you a Christian? Do you go to church? or What church you go to?  

          I used to get all uncomfortable when asked because:
          1. I really don’t consider myself a Christian. I consider myself a spiritual being who believes that we are all part of this universe that provides all we need. We are all connected to this universe and we will all at some point return to the source from whence we came.
          2. I haven’t gone to church in years. I see no need to go church...it’s only bricks and mortar. And...
          3. I meditate daily and to me that is going to church.  

          I have since gotten over being uncomfortable when asked these questions. I just tell the truth...No, I don’t go to church, my beliefs are personal to me and my relationship with god is a private one and no ones business but my own.

          I think there are good some philosophies to follow in most religions and whatever you believe in is fine as long as it is not hurtful to anyone.
          Peoples will believe what they want but it’s as bodycombe say...only love is real.
          Peace.



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          Inakika wrote Oct 9, 2008
        • Interesting. Everyone has a valid point. It’s great that we live in a Society that allows us to express our views and not be persecuted for them.
          I too live in the South and as soon as I moved here I was bombarded with questions as to my “Christianity“. I visited a church with my husbands cousin and the folks treated me like crap because I am from California and “different“.
          I have recently started attending a Church that has a wonderful congregation with good people and they have made me feel comfortable. Will I join? I don’t know. But I do know that I won’t allow anyones opinion of how I choose to worship to color my decision.
          I love how Almostfive0 wrote: “I consider myself a spiritual being who believes that we are all part of this universe that provides all we need“.
          That kind of sums it up for me.



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          Feathermaye wrote Oct 9, 2008
        • Well, I typed out a whole thing in support of lilli, and against the hypocrisy of the Christians I have experienced and it timed me out.

          I admit it. I just took the Lord’s name in vain. ;)

          I don’t attend church for pretty much the same reasons expressed here. I’m sorry, lilli, that this happened to you. Can you look for another job? Because it probably won’t get easier for you, if you stay...



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          Cindylouwho1966 wrote Oct 9, 2008
        • Way to go, Carol!! As I posted on my Facebook profile, anti-religion, not anti-God.



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          Vee wrote Oct 10, 2008
        • Hi Jackie,

          I wish more Christians would be like you.  I find that the Christians who actually read and try to follow Jesus's own teachings are usually fine people.  

          But some use the writings of other Biblical writers (usually the Old Testament, or the Pauline epistles) as excuses for a self-righteous, holier-than-thou attitude.  Those are the ones who are a problem and give Christianity a bad name.

          Jesus said to minister to people and help them, not harangue them!  Besides—as my grandmother used to say, “You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.”

          Blessed Be.



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          Cat Valentine wrote Oct 12, 2008
        • I was raised in a Baptist church. Been hurt by people in congregations especially after I got a ‘divorce‘. I love almostfiveo’s statement too about being a spiritual being. Too many religious people try and shove their religion down others’ throats.  Look at how many holy wars there have been!?



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          Lilli925 wrote Oct 18, 2008
        • Good Morning Ladies
          Thank you for all the comments,I truly appreciate everything, things have cooled off at work for now I think I managed to get my point across???
          Much Love
          Lilli



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          Scorpion13 wrote Nov 20, 2008
        • I’m glad things have cooled down at work. Yikes! I, too, am not a Christian, though I was raised that way. I find that talking about my beliefs only puts Christians on the defensive...so I don’t. Personally, I find Buddhism and the Vedic philosophy ring truest to me...and I get much much more from a meditation session than I ever got in any church. Live and let live, that’s what I say!



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          Scorpion13 wrote Dec 9, 2008
        • Thanks for your comment, Bernadette. I am working on feeling more free to talk about my beliefs; I guess I just want to avoid being judged negatively. Currently, I only speak about them when asked, but you know, why the hell not speak my mind? I’m loving the alternative voices on this site.



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          Scorpion13 wrote Dec 9, 2008
        • I second that emotion.



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