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  • Is anyone else sick of Joe the Plumber?

    53 posts, 20 voices, 1122 views, started Oct 28, 2008

    Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 by Beverly Mahone

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      The most famous person in America is not JOE-Mama. It's Joe the Plumber. As soon as presidential hopeful Barack Obama mentioned his name during the last debate, opponent John McCain grabbed hold of it like a pit bull and wouldn't let up.  

      Today it was announced that good ol' Joe is hitting the campaign trail for who else? He will be attending rallies on behalf of the Republican Party to drum up support for the McCain-Palin ticket.

      Joe the Plumber became the voice for every hard-working "wanna be self-employed" man in America. Initially I was proud of Joe because he represented my home state of Ohio—-but then, as all good journalists do, I started looking into his background and what I found now makes me think he was a "plant" for the Republican Party.

      First of all, Joe said he was a plumber and would like to buy a plumbing business but was worried about Obama’s planned tax increases on small business owners earning more than $250,000. Well, what Joe failed to mention was that he makes no where near $250,000 and, furthermore, he doesn't even have a license to do his job. The county Joe and his employer live in, Lucas County, requires plumbers to have licenses. So what's up with that Joe?

      Another thing, Joe admitted later on that he doesn’t have a good plan put together on how he would buy Newell Plumbing and Heating from his boss. He said he’s worked there for six years and that the two have talked about his taking it over at some point. Just how long is "some point?" It could be next week or it could be in 10 years. Surely Obama won't be in office by then.

      “There’s a lot I’ve got to learn,” Joe the Plumber told a reporter.

      He said it right. There's A LOT he definitely needs to learn so here's my advice: Joe the Plumber should meet Joan—The Teacher. She's someone who went to school, got a degree (license) and could certainly teach you a thing or two—-especially if Joe is required to take some kind of test to get his plumber's license.



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          Humming1975bird wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • McCain just spoke about 45 minutes ago here in my hometown of Defiance, OH.  I did not get to go, but listened on the radio.  He asked if Joe the Plumber was in the audience.  He had been told that he would be there.  He was not.  Defiance is only an hours drive from the Toledo area where Joe the Plumber lives.  His speech was short, but good and well received by the crowd of over 6,000 people.



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          Cindylouwho1966 wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • Now Joe the Plumber is planning on running for office.



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          Sharon Brown wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • Blame Obama, for making Joe the plumber famous. He was not hired by the McCain party to speak, he did not get the answer he was looking for.Obama would not give him a clear answer.Or rather could not give him a clear answer.

          As for his License, He said he was not licensed, but he was working for it,I think they are called Aprentices.No matter how it is put, he is a plumber,working toward his license, not a school teacher, or doctor. He does plumbing.

          I think people should get to the bottom of this election, and read between the lines. I am not for either of them, but I am trying to be objective. neither one of them, are what I am looking for, but one of these Gentlemen will be our next leader, and we need to pray that God makes the selection and gives us the knowledge to check the right box



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • thevintagediva..it’s not that it’s not understood..or even heard for that matter...people can choose to be biased when they want to close eyes and ears to the ‘real’ problem...just like it’s okay to be ‘done with this blog’ when points are being challenged..I’ve seen it so many times on here that i’m sick and tired of it...We know what it is vintagediva..we know!!!..And in no way am I trying to start anything...just a little ‘miffed’ about this whole crap...



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • OMG!!!...I can’t believe what i just saw...and who said it wasn’t about race?...I heard the ‘N’ word enough times on that video to know different now...I am totally shocked by the assumptions I have read on this blog...Thanks nycmom for bringing this to light...

          And then someone on the video had the nerve to be scared that Obama does not like whites?..We’ve lived with hatred because of skin color for how long now?...Ok ok..before I get told..I’m going to cool my heels!!!!



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          Beverly Mahone wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • I just saw that video and I am ASHAMED to call Ohio home.  I can’t believe how small minded those people are.  But you know what?  They live in a sheltered world where they don’t mix with others.  It’s a generational thing and it’s really sad because they have such a distorted view of the world.  And news agencies like Fox, continue to instill the fear and racial hatred in them.

          I was a McCain supporter in 2000.  This is NOT the same man who ran back then.  The extreme right of the Republican Party has taken over and is calling the shots.  Scary to think one faction can have such power—ohhhhtherwise, Sarah Palin would’ve never been on the ticket.  And she has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to squash those fears in those rural area.  What does that say about her?



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          Cindylouwho1966 wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • What is up with him saying, a vote for Obama is a vote for the death of Israel? Talk about maverick, and not in a good way. More like loose cannon. He’s shooting off his mouth, basking in his (soon to end, I pray) glory.



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • I just saw a news clip about that Israel crap...And it’s sad that people are looking up to this man like he’s the second best thing since sliced bread...How did he get to be the mouthpiece for working Americans?..And whose hero is he supposed to be anyway?



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • It’s only because he’s gotten further than anyone thought he would that’s all..people don’t get why there’s so much hype about him ...so someone has to throw a bit of negative energy out there to make him seem like this dark monster...As if Bush isn’t monsterlike!



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          Mztracy wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • Joe the plumber asked obama a question, obama answered and that was that. Then mccain took that and ran with it. Like vintagediva, all i have seen here is mccain supporters using the words like stupid, ignorant, blows me away, pathetic, etc about the obama supporters. Why does that happen? Can’t a point get across without downgrading another. It must be a mccain thing, as these seem to be his tactics also.  

          I voted, and hopefully it will count and this election will be fair and not ‘stolen’ like our last two presidential elections!!  

          As for race not being an issue....WHAT! I still say and will always say, the birth certificate fiasco would never have happened if obama had been white!! That is sick!!



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          Mztracy wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • just watched the video again...

          ok ‘joe’ is getting his 15mins of fame thanks to Obama answering his question.

          And joe, like mccain/palin can’t even answer a straight question.  

          And please it’s FOX news...and even they were shocked at joe the ‘dancing around the questions’ plumber.



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          Mztracy wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • ok, lol sorry... watched the racist old man and his disgusting display! What a coward too..... wow and this does not show people anything!  

          Gr8 post pie!!



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • yeah mztracy..I was pretty blown away by that one...But it’s not about race?...huh



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          Mztracy wrote Oct 30, 2008
        • blown away is not even a good enough description for me. My hubby’s eyes got real big at my comments!! lol he said, damn trace tell me how you really feel about that guy!! lol !pic(image description)!



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          Tammyjoa wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • YES I AM SOOOO TIRED OF HEARIN BOUT HIM... IT MAKES NO SENSE IN HOW THE WORLD HAS MADE HIM A BIG DEAL. HE DONT EVEN HAVE A LICEISE TO DO PLUM... DONT WE HAVE MORE IMPORTENT THING TO WORRY BOUT....



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          Shereen Rolle wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Joe, really don’t know what he said, when he said, or why he said...he just as lost as some of the people who think we are lost, or stupid, or not christian.  I have decided that, it’s totally useless, having such a thing as “freedom of speech“.  b/c no matter how we feel, they believe that what they say, or do, is the right thing to say or do, and the opinion or choices of others are nil n void.

          But, NO NO Joe....the Obama train IS coming, and guess what?....it’s here to stay so get used to it...and KNOW that he’s here for ALL AMERICANS....



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          Shereen Rolle wrote Oct 31, 2008
        • Geekgal....It’s almost hopeless expressing our opinions or views to you.  You have a 1 tract mind, and feel as if your way is the ONLY way.



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          Beverly Mahone wrote Nov 2, 2008
        • geekgal,

          I’m not even going to pretend that I respect your opinion.  What I have a problem with is your saying you‘re a CHRISTIAN and then you can find it in your heart to judge another person.  Only GOD has the power to judge.  You may have an opinion about something—-I believe it’s called “free will” but you have NO RIGHT to determine who is good or evil based on your so-called Christian beliefs.  

          When you can point to me SPECIFICALLY in the Bible where Jesus or God gives MAN/WOMAN the right to judge another person, then I will be inclined to listen to you.  Otherwise, I view you are a part of a VERY SCARY PART OF America because you are UNINFORMED AND UNEDUCATED on the facts!

          I’m curious...where did you go to college?  And if you say “What does college have to do with anything?”  I’ll totally understand.



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          Mztracy wrote Nov 2, 2008
        • There are laws made to keep religion out of schools and politics. Ya know separation of church and state. This was done for many reasons.

          I guess I run with the democrats, but really thought I was just an American. hmmm I do not want “Under God” removed. I do believe it is a woman’s right to choose, and a person’s right to marry the person they want.  

          The right to choose does not mean using it as birth control. The right to chose should be anyone’s right. The sick part is the pro-lifers that kill in the name of that right. hmmmmm  

          The right to marry the person of your choice should also be anyone’s right. How does it hurt you? And no, it is not taught in schools. I never learned marriage in school. And your kids will NOT become gay ‘cause someone talks about it. These comments are totally unfounded and ridiculous.  

          Why can’t we just live and let live. The so-called polls are one-sided, just as the articles are. I could find the same things that go the other way by looking at a different side.

          I thought that Christians do not judge?! That is a big reason my beliefs have changed.  

          Judge, lest not ye be judged.
          Love thy neighbor as you would love yourself
          Hypocrasy...

          I try so hard to stay out of these discussions, but it is so hard. When I see attacks or wrong doings I cannot help myself.  

          I completely and utterly disagree with the liberal/democratic comments. It is like saying all skin heads are racist, so all whites are racist...
          a thought to ponder



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          Amy L. Harden wrote Nov 2, 2008
        • Joe the Plumber...Barack Obama...John McCain. Sarah Palin or Joe Biden....I am pretty much tired of the whole she-bang!!!  Stop fighting about it...and just go vote on November 4th...for who you believe should be President for the next four years...it is your right...don’t waste it...if you don’t vote...then don’t complain come Wednesday morning.  

          I can’t wait for this politcal season to be over with!!!!  

          The bickering and how this has divided our country at a time when we need unity is getting more on my nerves then Joe the Plumber...Just VOTE on November 4th...



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          Coachmombabe wrote Nov 2, 2008
        • Shepherdess, I am with you. I am so ready for this to be over. I’m going to go vote tomorrow and be done with it. I’ve never been so un-excited about an election!



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          Nalbert wrote Nov 2, 2008
        • This is my first post as I just became a member—I don’t even have a profile pic up yet!

          But I have to comment on geekgirl’s comments.  Apparently you are not familiar with the separation of church and   state.  Bush’s platform at the last election was strongly based on his Christian values and frankly it was insulting to me then as it is now.  So he won, but look where those values worked for this country now.  Religion has no business in politics, it should be based more on your ability the lead this country that is full of people from all different faiths!

          And FYI, pro-choice is not the same as pro-abortion.  It is the right to decide what is best for you as an individual.  There are many pro-choicers that would not have an abortion but would not want to make that decision for another person.

          What I do not understand are how many pro-lifers are for the death penalty.  

          Many people are voting for McCain because on his Christian values, but have they put that much thought on how he would run everything else that affects this country?  ie., the economy, the war, healthcare, taxes

          And btw, I am a small-business owner that is voting for Obama.



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          Carrie Clark wrote Nov 2, 2008
        • I think we have heard enough, and they should stop reporting all of this garbage. I think most people know who they are going to vote for on Nov 4. If you do not know by now, shame on you. I want politicians to do their job, and hold people accountable to include themselves once elected. It is so easy to say what should have been done in hindsight.



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          Mztracy wrote Nov 3, 2008
        • The problem is that not all democrats feel the ways you have stated, just like not all republicans feel those ways. You make way too broad of a statement.

          and again:
          It is like saying all skin heads are racist, so all whites are racist...
          a thought to ponder

          I voted already, and tomorrow, hopefully it will be over with all the negative comments. All we can do now is hope for an ‘honest’ count!!



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          Coachmombabe wrote Nov 3, 2008
        • Hi geekgal, I’m going to give this a shot explaining why we would choose a party if we are not 100% in agreement with them. Of course, my understanding will be limited to my own experience.

          I began as an undeclared. I truly do not like being labeled, or being told I must vote a certain way. I was mad when I discovered I had to declare a party to be able to vote in the primaries!  

          So, forced to choose, I chose the one that I thought reflected my values the closest. Now, fortunately, that does not dictate whom you must vote for. It’s been known to happen that a voter will cross party lines occasionally when voting.

          I agree that to say that if one is Republican, then she is like all Republicans, or is in total agreement with the party. Or if she is a Democrat, then likewise. Most human beings are far too complex to pigeonhole as such.

          Now when it comes to the current election, I am not enamored with either Presidential candidate, nor their running mates. But again, I will vote the one that appears to hold values most similar to my own.

          I hope this helps somewhat.

          Blessings,
          Cindy



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