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  • Let's Get Started!!! Louisa's Law! The First Step.

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    104 posts, 20 voices, 3568 views, started Jan 5, 2009

    Posted on Monday, January 5, 2009 by Shopgirl1960

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      Let’s get started with bringing “Louisa’s Law” into action.

      Please list those things you wish for “Louisa’s Law” to state ONLY.  

      I am beginning this thread in hopes of ideas as to how to keep women safe from their abusers.
      Personally I believe we need some type of monitoring devise with an alarm that the abuser would wear should he get close to his victim or victims family. Surely there is this type of device manufactured,but not used for these circumstances. I wouldn’t think such a devise could be “that” expensive.

      Della ( who thinks of Louisa daily)

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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • I am so ignorant and uneducated in this area.  Can someone tell me how’s the existing law and where’s the loop hole?  I think one can do a restraining order and it’s of no use??? How do the current law protect or not protect the victims and family members???



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          Psalmist wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • I don’t know too much about the legal side of this issue, i just know what i’ve done or seen others do, legal or not, so I too need real education in this area.

          Is there a way to have the abusers registered, as they do with sex offenders?  You know, somehow put them on a watch list or something.



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • How I wish I know some ADV (against domestic violence) activist beside BJ for she is so busy, to just educate us a little on current laws etc.  frown



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          Psalmist wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Maybe anger management and therapy could be made as a mandatory part of their sentence.  Also, their wages should be garnished to force them to pay for the relocation costs of their victims or for the hospital charges for the physical damage.  Also they should never be allowed to work around children because children pick up on that aspect of a personality, so much more quickly than we do.



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Do DV abusers usually have drug and alcohol related issues?



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          UK Girl wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • I don’t know if this might be of help but in the UK - the Bodyshop [Link Removed] ran a big campaign against DV and people handed in their old mobile phones to the shop minus the simcard- these were sent away and made so they could call the police without cost or credit and the police knew it was a DV incident and acted accrodingly like sending a female officer etc;

          I don’t know is it worth Fab40 posting a blog on Daily Puma asking for advice as that site seems to reach a lot of people who would have the knowledge etc and they could help us and also a bigger force ....

          Are there no DV websites we can reach out vice versa ?

          Just a few thoughts from over the pond here


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          UK Girl wrote Jan 5, 2009
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          I have just been on the US Bodyshop site and they are doing the same campaign - Yana should get hold of them and get them involved with us ......I know the guy who runs the UK business.


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          Shopgirl1960 wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Great feedback~!  

          So far we have learned from you all that we need to know more about the laws. I will work on that.
          Also we have a few GREAT ideas in such a short period of time!

          1) The Abuser To Be Tract/Monitored For An Alloted Time
          2) Their names on a State List, equal to that of child molestors. ( sound right to you Tory?)
          3)Abuse status on Driver’s Liscense and Credit Reports.
          4)Anger Management and Therapy
          5)Garnished Wages for any damages caused to victim,to
          include the health and well being of victim.
          6) Loss of rights to children until proven they are rehibilitated. (Including their own)
          7) Loss of rights to alcohol PERMANTLY. (bylaw: use of drugs or alchohol will be mandatory jail time to be distinquished differently than normal DWI )

          I encourage all of us to go to the other sites as Vicki has mentioned and see what we can pick up.  

          You all are so awesome! Louisa would be so proud of us!

          Please feel free to edit or change as any of you see fit.



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • I visited.  Good to know.  I have a problem to the site of National Coalition Against Domestic Violence (NCADV) [Link Removed]  They have so many broken links and I doubt their worthy IMHO.


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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Lori, great and thanks for the headsup.  I hope it does not trouble you too much.  Let me know and I am ready to kick butts.  Also, think about Dr. Phil or other national shows.



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          Almostfive0 wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • That’s a great idea...Psalmist and Teeky. They should have be treated like they do sex offenders. Registration is a great idea!



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          UK Girl wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • I can now see how hard it is in the US to get a law passed as you have so many variables like State Law.... Here the law is set nationally and by Parliament but can be changed by precedent.
          So in effect you just have to holler at one set of idiots until they get the message – plus our national newspapers are very effective – for instance we have one paper The Sun if they pick up a cause they can get a million signatures on a petition in 4 days – without a sweat – we had a dreadful case of domestic violence and child cruelty and The Sun – broke several libel / contempt of court laws but they really had the whole country shocked and shammed and over a course of 7 days had people sacked the Prime Minister apologising and crying on the television and 15 million signatures and a change in the law ...
          Do you not have one main paper .... you can rally to the cause ?



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Rage is good for it pushes me to act for the righteous.



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          Lisa Middlesworth wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • This is great brainstorming.
          I think the reason the laws that are put in place now, don’t work, is because, there are so many woman that want to drop charges and go back to their abusers.
          I do know that now, in most states, it is the state that does the prosecuting, therefore, the wife or partner can’t drop charges.
          Only the state can do that.
          It’s really sad, because there are so many women out there that really need this protection and are willing to go the mile.
          But, the ones that just want to have their abuser locked up for the night, make it really hard for the ones that really do need the protection.



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • I am humming even though the song is not quite appropriate... I am humming.. “Oh let the Saints, go marching in, Oh let the Saints go marching In!” Hope you know that song.  I just feel and visualize a whole bunch of us marching for a good clause.



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
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          Shopgirl1960 wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Let this be our motto,“This IS the time, and THIS IS the place.”  

          If we are persistant when we have the time, and energy... this law will come to light. I ask all of you to research when you can and give feedback.

          When we have completely exhausted every corner of what the law needs built into it then we can examine the existing law and see how it compares. Also in comparing, there may be “bylaws” that we wish to see taken out since it may not be beneficial to the abused, and/or too beneficial to the abuser.

          When the time is right, and everything has been researched “to the max” I will call my sister who ran for judge and ask lots of questions and see what it takes to make or change an existing law. And in retrospect, assure that each state will adopt this law. Perhaps a chapter of
          sisterhood in each state to assure there is “sister power” to help push the law through.

          Mrslorid I can’t tell you how good it is to have you here. Your words are so powerful and full of wisdom!

          8) Any Person Causing "Assult and Battery" Will Spend No Less than _ Hours In Jail. No Bail. No Contact With Said Assulted Victim After Arrest for __ days.

          • Said Assulter Must Follow guidlines that were previously listed above following court hearing.


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          Shopgirl1960 wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • All of You,,, each one...... how you AMAZE ME~!

          And BJ.... wish you were here!



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Let this be our motto,"This IS the time, and THIS IS the place - Zero tolerance to Domestic Violence!”



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Revision:
          This is the Time
          This is the Place
          Zero Tolerance
          Fabulously 40 against Domestic Violence.



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          Lisa Middlesworth wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • I’m scared of guns, only because I know that if pushed far enough, I would use it.
          However, I’m not scared of a ball bat!
          My biological father was abusive to my mother, not me.
          She remarried when I was 5 years old. The Stepdad was a holy terror.
          He abused all of us.
          I don’t know what it feels like to be abused by my husband, but I do remember and will never forget the abuse I suffered at the hands of my stepdad.



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          Shopgirl1960 wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • There you are Peeper,,, I knew you would join us!!!estatic

          I wish I had the right words to respond to the laws that represent the abused. But,as many women can attest to,,, “it just ain’t good enough anymore!”  

          We could sure use you Peeper, I hope you will visit often!



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • psalmist...I don’t know if anger management and or counseling would do any good to be honest...My second abuser beat his jail sentence because he agreed to do both after I filed charges and he did both alright, just to get off, but he was no better than when he went in. I even had him go to alcohol treatment, beat that one too and was a worse drinker than he was before the incident. They are slick, conniving and charming and if they know what they are doing, they can get away with it, without even a slap on the wrist. Mines did. I was told because it was his first offense, but I truly believe that he has done it MANY times before, but the women were just too scared to say/do anything about it.



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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Oh yeah..and what peeper said about a protective order is absolutely right and in some cases it can make the abuser madder than they were because you had the nerve to get an order thinking that, that would keep them away from you. Yep...happened to me...Dude was like, ‘women don’t know what they‘re doing when they get the government involved in domestic situations‘..He was too thru with me...



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          Psalmist wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • soulful i thought that as well for the "seasoned" abuser, but maybe some poor soul could benefit from it.  i just want all to benefit.  i know it may sound all "tree-huggy" and "kumbaya-ish" but no matter how far gone some abusers are, there's usually a child inside who was abused that started on that treacherous journey.  now, i'm not saying you or i have to be the ones to rehabilitate them, because we'd probably prefer to kill them, but there must be some way out there that we don't know about yet that could work.  you know maybe like those boot camps that they have on tv for those seemingly unrepentant spoiled children, something like that, i don't know, just an idea...i'm also trying desperately to upload a song to this blog to honor you women, but i'm having a dickens of a time.



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          Shopgirl1960 wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Here is a sample of 1 State.  

          Indiana

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          You will not be able to copy and paste, because you must leave the dash on the end off.
          See all of Indiana’s Laws pertaining to DV.
          It’s interesting to see the types of felonies,the cost and jail time for each.


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          Jacquie6363 wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • Ironically, most incarcerated women are those who defended themselves against these sorry excuse for men.  Laws are not set up to protect the abused, but rather the abuser.



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          Psalmist wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • this video is dedicated to all who have contributed so far, who have not given up hope, who have yielded to the fire in their belly, who have picked up the gauntlet where Louisa dropped it and are shouting, “WE‘RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!“.  I’m proud to be your sister.



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • To view the Deaths from Violence: A Look at 17 States data from the National Violent Death Reporting System 2004-2005 report, please go to the link below and 1/2 way thru, you can download a PDF with all statistic...  

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          Denise Alleyne-Hill wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • So true Jacquie...my horrific night almost cost me my freedom...My abuser was beaten pretty badly by me..(defense) and the police that came to help ME wanted to put ME in jail because he claims he was bleeding and I wasn’t...Right...I ended up with a broken baby finger and a neck sprain and had to wear a collar for 3 weeks..Plus I had carpet burns down both my legs from being dragged across my floor for what seemed like an eternity...My ex claimed that he asked them not to lock me up because of my girls....



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • I wonder if BJ has brought Louisa’s case to USDOJ: OVW



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          Linni wrote Jan 5, 2009
        • one thing that i didn’t see ( and i may have missed it ) is that the ABUSER needs to leave the home... NOT the woman and her children! i had to do that manyt times because the boys in blue said it was ME that had to leave! in the middle of the night with children no less!

          Well, these folks have screwed up one time too many! WE ARE WOMEN HEAR US ROAR!



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