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  • Sex offender registry

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    34 posts, 13 voices, 1302 views, started Jul 22, 2009

    Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 by Tuliplady

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      Let’s say there are some new people moving into your neighborhood.  The only thing anyone in the community knows about them is their name and  that they are on the national sex offender list.

      Are you going to shun this person totally or give him/her the benefit of a doubt and a chance to prove that they are a decent human being?  Are you willing to find out why they‘re on the list before you judge them?

      This has been on my mind a lot lately.  We had a couple folks move to town here who are on the list (and nobody has bothered to ask or find out why) and a couple people have just been rabid about shunning them and trying to make sure everyone else does too even to the point of trying to run them out of town.  

      Are people supposed to pay for their crimes their whole entire life.  Does Christian forgiveness not extend to everyone?

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          Denise Richardson wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • I applaud you for this post Tulip. I also have a former church member who sends me current updates of prisoners who have committed those same crimes who have been released back into the real world and she is always trying to keep her foot on them as well. I like you believe in giving people a second chance. I’m not saying I’ll have them sitting at my dinner table but I’ll not treat them badly or disrespect them, my goal would be to befriend them to the point of getting to know them enough to see why they did what they did as well as see if they were remorseful for their actions and what their future plans are. This would be a great time to minister to them as well.



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          UK Girl wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Jinks Tulip thats a tough one because from a distance we would all hold the Christian card but up close and personal & if you have children who knows ...

          In the UK we don’t know if some one is a sex offender and they live next door ..... so the man I smile at in the morning could be a monster ?

          Do you know what they did or does the information not give you that as I think too little information is more dangerous than no information ?
          Thats just my thoughts for what they are worth



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          Angelcart wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Me personally I would want nothing at all to do with a sex offender.  Especially if my children were still small.  I’m not saying people can’t change but I’ve seen severacl documentaries where sex offenders have omitted it’s still on their minds.  I feel why take the chance.



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          Lazylola wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • This is a tough one...lets look at different scenarios here..

          A young offender say 18 -19, with a girlfriend that is 17, in some states that is under the age of consent, and the girls parents press charges, yada,yada, and he ends up having to register as a sex offender for life.

          A young offender say 14, rapes his 7 yr old sister, and molests his 8 yr old nephew...yada, yada, and he ends up having to register as a sex offender for life.

          An older offender just your run of the mill sicko....yada, yada, and he ends up having to register as a sex offender for life.

          I worked for an attorney for a while, all above scenarios are based on real life cases, in the first case I can see giving this individual the benefit of the doubt.

          The other two, probably not.  

          I have kids and I check out the registry often, I check to see how many are in the path my kids take to walk to school, we drive by the houses and I let them know to not EVER stop near those houses or talk to anyone near those houses, I do this every school year.



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Like Angel I have heard out of the mouth of the offender that they never change no matter what, they still desire small children and dream of them. How can you trust a child around someone like this? We need to never let our guards down and keep our eyes open at all times and protect our kids at all costs. I know I sure would not want them around my grandchild. I know there are a few cases like Lola said #1. We need to find out what makes people do this. On the internet there are sights that you can type in your zip code and a map will pop up and show with dots where they live but you also have to remember some of them do not register. The list of offenses are really vague. It does not say exactly what they did and to who. I was totally shocked at the number of them around my area. Casteration was discussed on the Dr. Phil show where I heard the molester being interviewed, this man had been thru years of therapy and he still had desires for children.He said it never goes away and he is drawn to parks & schools etc. This man just touched kids in the supermarket or where ever he went, now we are not talking sexually either he would just touch their shoulder or arm or hair so ladies talk to your kids about that too. Not only Never talk to strangers never let anyone touch you.



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          Angelcart wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Janwoo there USED to be a registered sex offender who lived a few blocks away from us and he had to have a sign in his yard for children to keep away.  Fortunately, after IKE, he moved and the house was demolished.  

          I agree if they are 17 & 19 years old because most likely they are boyfriend/girlfriend and it’s mutual.  But the older men who prey on small children or young teen girls are sicko’s and I have no sympathy for them.  What about that woman I believe in Florida who took in a sex offender and she had a 5 year old daughter, Neveah I beleive.  What an idiot!!!!!  She said on the news “Well everyone deserves a 2nd chance“.  Some mom huh?



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          Owlmaria wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • This is a tough one. You also have to remember that not all offenders are MEN!!
          I do not know how to check out our area; where to go to on-line.



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          Tuliplady wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Thank you Lola for making those points.  That’s the whole problem with the sex offender list.  It does not matter how serious the crime.  A boy who had sex with his under age girlfriend is lumped right in there with a pedophile.  That’s just not right.

          Then there’s the man who was accused by a foster daughter of molesting her.  His word against hers that he didn’t.  She told a very convincing lie and he did the time.  He’s on the list for life because of a pissed off hormonal teenager.

          Both my older daughters have male friends who are on the list for life.  Their crime?  Going ahead when a girl said yes.  The girls were bragging about it until their parents found out and then it was called rape.  Let’s put these girls on the list too!!!!!!

          I totally support castration for child molesters. It think it’s the only way to deal with them.



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          Tuliplady wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Here’s another thought.  We don’t want the bad ones living next door, or in the neighborhood.  That’s understandable.  

           But, what are we (as a society) going to do with them?  They’ve done their time (probably not enough, but that’s beside the point) now what?  Where are they supposed to go, what are they supposed to do?



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Yes there are women too Ok I admit I once thought of Male when the term was brought up but after looking at that list and seeing women too I was wrong it is both sexes. To me ANYONE who would deliberately harm a child is a SICKO And if you think they deserves a second chance well they can live next door to you and get there second chance.



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Unless WE pay for this or come up with a better way to deal with this they are gona live amungst us. They need a BIG tattoo on their forehead.



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Maybe that was alittle harsh but something like an ankle monitor thing they give people who are on house arrest. We need to know where they are 24/7, They should be on house arrest, not allowed to leave their house only to go to work and their whereabouts monitored at all times. Because we as a society should not have to pay for these ______ to lie around and watch TV all day and be fed 3 squares. We do need to be much tougher with the punishment because they have more rights than you & I do. If the times(punishment) were tougher maybe they would think twice befor doing the crime.



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • ok I just have one more thing to say and I will stop. We all are upset with this topic and spout out what should be done and most things are not realistic. This is never gona happen, their rights will be violted and it wont be permitted. But the plain and simple truth is they are all around us. They look as normal as any of us do. They work with us and are our neighbors, go to our churches and  so on.Why when they break the law WHY do we have to pay for their stay. Here is my thought. Prison is a joke, honestly. They are on a merry go round in & out in & out. They (Prisoners)call it Disneyland. Why not make these places self contained. Grow their own food vegies and poultry/cows etc and make them work for their keep? The key work WORK. I am finding in my endevoure to make it a better place that the thread in this all is Drug & alcohol abuse. Laziness, they don’t want to work etc...Get up off your lazy ass and earn your living. The government makes this too easy for alot of people that is what is wrong w/society and in a way they are in control. Well i am no genious but everything I see they control has gone to pot. Our government has taught a generation how to survive on hand outs and look at the results. Scary in my view. If you choose to do drugs then go to an island where you can all molest each other steal from each other, rob each other and leave us alone.
          We are all being desensatized (sp) to this, we are all in a huge pot of water that is slowly boiling and don’t know it but it’s gona kill us unless we get out. This affects us all. We need harsh punishment for crimes against children. How else are these offenders gona even give it a thought that this will not be tolerated.



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          Vikki Hall wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Great Post! And a hard question to answer.  

          I’m pretty sure that if I knew one moved into my area I would do my best to be aware of his/her wareabouts at all times. I think I would probably have to go introduce myself and make it be known that I know who you are and what you did and I will be watching. I have no intention of hurting that person but I believe awareness is half the battle.
          I think that is what they teach at all the self defense classes... to be aware and look aware.

          Something to definitely think about and be proactive.



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          Angelcart wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Send them all to Molokai Island in HI!



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          UK Girl wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Actually Angel there is an island we Brits own and fought over which is vile and called the Falkland Islands they can all live there ...... freeze their bits off



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • HI??? to nice, how about the middle of the desert



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • The mind set is the problem cuz no matter where you send them they would figure out a way to escape or whatever. Rehabilitation does not work in these cases. Work there butts off make them pay the victims for the rest of their lives for the crime they committed.



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          Vikki Hall wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • @UKGirl..... I love freexe their bits off!



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • There is no consideration for the victims at all. Make them pay for the therapy the victims need and pay fines for the rest of their lives for harm done to victims.
          Why do we pay what did we do?



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          Mz. Queen wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • I have a sex offender living in my neighborhood. I just recently,(the last 4 years) found out about him. I always thought he was kinda creepy, and flirty. Because my children were young adults and versed in the issues we didn’t raise a stink, I just made them aware.

          And yes some are females.



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • Oh yes I have heard of him, like his ideas too. The inmates live in tents and work on a chain gang, guess what the prisoners in his jail say? I aint coming back here again. And why? because they work their booties off, sun up to sun set. I forget his name.



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 22, 2009
        • I like this Joe guy, he has the right idea. Our judicial system has gotten so bad they are just hand slappers is all they are, it is a joke. My son got into trouble right before he turned 18 and they put him in the Farm, thats what they call it here, and let me tell you that kid straightened out like I have never seen anyone in my life. This judge scared my son straight and that is no joke, he was terrified to go to jail and lives like a normal person and obeys all the laws. I thank God for that judge I am glad he took the time to do what he did to my son. He keeps the law because he is afraid to go to jail. We need more judges like the one who proceeded over my sons case. I am not proud that my son got into trouble but I am proud of the man he has turned into.



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          Angelcart wrote Jul 23, 2009
        • Janwoo I said Molokai because that’s where they used to send all the leppers.  I saw it last year when we visited my husbands son in HI and it look’s like a big rock.  Nothing pleasant about that.  I do think you have a great idea of putting a big a** tat right on their forehead!  I watched a documentary on tat’s and in Japan they are still considered tabu by many.  Reason being is years ago when someone committed a crime they would put a tat on their forehead so everyone knew they were a bad element.

          And yes, Sheriff Joe is AWESOME!  He also makes the inmates wear pink boxers.  I know several people who think he’s a “cruel” man.  WTF?  What about the inmates who committed heinous crimes, ie. “sex offenders“?????



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          Angelcart wrote Jul 23, 2009
        • Oh also they have said that sex offenders are the most repeat  offenders of any crime.  I would have never approached the one that lived close to us.  I know what he did and it's not worth my time, what would that have accomplished? The sign in his yard was humiliating enough.  And I only think he would have been humiliated because he got caught! Everyone on the Island knew what he did and I'm sure a person like that wouldn't give a rat's a** what I or any other's had to say to him.



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          Tammy Slater-Kendrick wrote Jul 23, 2009
        • Wow...that’s a tough question. Of course, there’s a big difference between a sex offender and a pedophile. I think most everyone on here is assuming we‘re talking about a pedophile. As LazyLola indicated, sometimes a registered sex offender is a 19 year-old guy who got caught having sex with his 17 year-old girlfriend. Other times, it’s a serial rapist. Or, it could be that a guy’s girlfriend filed a rape charge when he came home drunk and forced himself on her.  

          Your county should have records on file that you can search to get more complete information. If you have children at home, you would certainly want to know if the person is a pedophile (especially a repeat offender).  

          Christian forgiveness does not mean you have to be his friend. No one says you have to go out of your way to get to know him just to prove you‘re a good person.

          Just my 2 cents worth.



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          Tammy Slater-Kendrick wrote Jul 23, 2009
        • One more comment...the Sheriff Joe stories are true. You can find out more on Wikipedia. His last name is Arpaio.



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