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  • Using Your and You're

    78 posts, 25 voices, 1878 views, started Nov 18, 2008

    Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 by Feathermaye

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      "A frighteningly large percentage of individuals fail to understand the difference between the words "you're" and "your". Here is a quick and dirty crash course on this common usage problem."

      If you're unsure whether or not your ability to determine which is the appropriate choice, start with [Link Removed] 

      One of the best references I could find for learning the difference between these two very different words is [Link Removed] although I'm sure that many other good ones exist.

      Some highlights, as swiped from that same article:

      "...the word your will never be followed by the words the, a, or an."

      "Try replacing your or you're with you are if you are unsure which to use. If the sentence makes sense, use you're."

      If you‘re sure that your ability to tell the difference between the two usages is rock-solid, then obviously this information isn’t for you. If you‘re not sure, however, it would be in your best interest to take a few minutes and brush up on the rules.  

      “...proper writing is [not] strictly “academic“. It makes you appear more intelligent.”

      all quoted references have been borrowed, with open license, from [Link Removed] 


      Feathermaye, Your links have been removed, please consider upgrading to premium membership.



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          AnneMarie Kimberling wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Love this!  As a journalism major with lots of English, I catch these things so easily...  Same with their, there, and they‘re...  sheesh!  Sometimes it’s just funny, but other times....



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Aaaah... a gal after my own heart.  

          AnneMarie, feel free to post your own tips and tricks, as you would like. This is an open group for the benefit of all!

          Some days I’m more motivated in particular directions, based on what I’ve been reading or the mistakes I might have found myself making.

          My writing, particularly as it appears online, is so important to me. I know not everyone takes it that seriously, but I just can’t help myself. ;)



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          Peejay64 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Okay, as long as we‘re on the grammar kick...what about when people overuse and incorrectly use the word “at“?  

          For example: “Where’s that at?”
          How about “Where is it/that?”

          It seems that we all have added that little word onto everything and it drives me nuts!

          Thanks for letting me vent.



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • peejay, isn’t it even more horrifying that major marketing campaigns have been launched that encourage that sort of thing? (I speak, of course, of Boost Mobile’s “Where you at?“)



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          Cynthia Schmidt wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • My husband is an educator. He’s the headmaster of a college prep school. It sounds like nails on a chalk board when he misuses the word “went.”  “I shoulda went yesterday”

          This just makes me want to scream

          “yesterday I couldn’t spell educator, today I are one.”



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          AnneMarie Kimberling wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Peejay....  We should never be ending any sentence with “at“... did we all forget our grammar rules of “dangling prepositions” (now my spelling isn’t the greatest at times)...  LOL!

          We use “that” too much also...  and of course as I write this, I can’t think of a good example, but I know I often go back through my own writing and can eliminate several “thats”



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          Dee Dee Shaw wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • How about further and farther? wonder and wander? accept and except? I have to stop and think about affect and effect too.
          I have a hang up on pronunciations too. (to, two, and too are also often used incorrectly.) Being in the south I hear nails on the chalk board all the time. “Warshing” clothes is one, and some older people have habit of putting ‘r’ on the end of words that should end in ‘a‘, as in “Lisa” becomes “lee-ser“.
          Dana, I hate suposeably too. And my dad’s wife loves to mix up words. One is ‘chimbly’ for for chimney and ‘flustrated’ instead of flustered or frustrated. There are others that I can’t remember.
          I have hounded my children for so long, that they have taken up the baton and are constantly correcting the grammar of their younger siblings. We sing conjugations of verbs. LOL



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          Cheryl Phillips wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Several years ago I went on a date with a great looking, seemingly intelligent man. I heard him on his phone talking to a business buddy....“We was going to go to the game Sunday“. See ya, big guy. Somehow poor grammar just turns me off as much as someone who doesn’t brush their teeth.

          Then there is “draw” and “drawer“. You can’t pull your undies out of a draw...unless you are trying to extract them from a picture. Your bureau has drawers. My daughter loves to draw with crayons.



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          AnneMarie Kimberling wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Teeky - affect and effect are difficult...  often, AFFECT” is an action (Affect=Action - the “A’s“).  And EFFECT is more often a noun...  However, as is with everything in the English language there are exceptions to every rule...  I found it very interesting that an online dictionary’s definition for AFFECT is: To have an influence on or effect a change in...  So here they are using EFFECT as verb or action...  good grief!



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          Bobbi Bacha wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Cheryl, its kind of like in Texas we say ROOF and up north is RUFF.  Ha..  

          You know I type so fast, and rarely bother to spell check on this site.. I probably have tons of typo’s but you know.. I think that the meaning is in what I write.  I never look at gramatical or spelling errors.. as I realize most people are writting on the run..   So, Your or You‘re or You Are.. Im fine with it all.. just write your what you feel like writing.    

          I rememember in school.. I would write very creative works and get the best marks on subject, creativity etc.. but low marks on gramar, spelling.   Which I remember always discouraged my writing.. it wasent until later in life I realized how good my writings truely were beneath all the red ink.. HA..  

          My opinion.. yes, learn the right way but if you cant seem to be a perfect speller or scholar... write your story anyway.. there is always someone that can correct the gramatics, but not everyone can write what you feel inside, only you can do that.



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          AnneMarie Kimberling wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • How about “picture” vs “pitcher“...??  My dad is bad with this...  I always tell him you hang a PICTURE on the wall, but you pour water our of a PITCHER....



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          Dee Dee Shaw wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • or libary instead of library. screeeechhh :)



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          AnneMarie Kimberling wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Dee Dee, we could come up with a whole long list of words like this!



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          Dee Dee Shaw wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • And we don’t even use the more modern dictionaries. I was appalled when I opened up our school dictionary to the sh... page. Slang words are no longer left out. They were ALL there, and even some varieties that I had never heard. I am estimating it won’t be long before ‘prolly’ is in the dictionary with the same meaning as probably. :(



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          Dee Dee Shaw wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Bobbi,
          I agree with you, but it irks me when I see a formal document (sometimes even a published book) with those kinds of mistakes. I have even seen billboards with misused words or spellings. Half the time our fingers and our brains are disconnected to the point that spelling properly has to be subconscious. I know I do it too. And sometimes when I don't know the spelling I am in too big of a hurry to get my thoughts on the screen to stop and look up the word. Bad me! :) Don't think of us all as analytical nit-pickers. I know I personally don't scan everyone's posts for errors so that I can say 'tsk tsk.' LOL I think what Feather was talking about was more related to the creative writing group. I think we sort of got sidetracked having fun pointing out our pet peeves. :)



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          Almostfive0 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • I’m with Azdana...I find that I have made more mistakes when I am in a hurry in my writing online. It always drives me nuts me when I later go back and read something I have written and find mistakes like that.
          I usually have to remind myself to check before I hit submit.



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          Bobbi Bacha wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Happymomma on formal documents.. I agree 100 percent.. Im never irked over someones writing though but I do think that most creative people arent your best spellers.  Its an artsy thing.. Im artsy.  Your write almostfive0, online is worst when you go back and look its too late. But Im artsy.



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • It’s true that we all have differences of opinions regarding WHY we write. Some take it very seriously, and hope to be noticed for their writing. Others simply want to be heard, and that’s more important to them.

          My husband is an amazing story-teller from a long line of story-tellers (I tease him and say he is descended from the bards!).

          Even as a child he wanted to be a writer, but struggled with dyslexia and other issues that prevented some of the actual “rules” of writing to imprint upon him.

          Through the years, he managed to reinforce his errors rather than correct them, even though his goal to be a “writer” never changed. “My story is what matters,” is how he would console himself.

          The last several years, though, he’s finally starting thinking about it differently. As the publication market becames more and more competitive, I encouraged him to really be honest with himself: Decide if he wants to be a story-teller or a writer. Because they are two very different things.

          It’s absolutely true that we don’t have to have perfect grammar or spelling or punctuation to have our story heard; we also don’t have to wrap a present that we intend to give to someone else; or decorate our homes for the holiday gatherings we are hosting. But oh, the beauty of the treasure within is only enhanced when wrapped in such beautiful trimmings.

          Have a beautiful day, y‘all! :)



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          Daphne wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Excellent post, Heather...and excellent contributions, ladies!  Here’s what I would like to offer:

          It’s better THAN...not better THEN
          It’s should HAVE...not should OF



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          Susan Haley wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • I didn’t spot an answer to this so here goes.

          As one who edits for a living, there is a hard and fast rule to remembering whether to use ‘effect’ or ‘affect‘. Just remember that ‘effect’ is a noun and ‘affect’ is a verb.

          Hope that helps. :)

          Susan Haley



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          Dee Dee Shaw wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • LOL Linda - and the lists goes on. :)
          Can you believe that I have a friend that was taught that ‘pen’ and ‘pin’ are homonyms? Yeah, we live in the south, and have lazy tongues. I have a difficult time teaching my children to spell phonetically because of it too. My high definition child is an aweful speller, but it is always phonetical, sort ahv.. :)
          Another southern favorite is good-gooder-goodest.  Red-necky, but still commonly spoken. Just like foots._ sigh_  

          I gotta (lol) go do sumpin else. Ya’ll have fun now, ya hear.



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          Cheryl Guy wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • My husband drives me crazy when he says pacific instead of specific! He uses a lot of words incorrectly but I try to let it slide because English really is his second learned language. He was born in the Philippines. I think he learned English when he was 9.



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          AnneMarie Kimberling wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Thank you, Susan - I was right in my answer...  Thank you for confirming that!!  Much appreciated....



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • happymomma, y'all are breaking my eyeballs.



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Annie, I do the same thing! And here I thought it was just me, lol.



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          Jacquie6363 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Awh! The Joy of the English Language, gotta love it.  I was raised under the British system, so many of my pronunciation differs.  My husband and I go at it all the time.  He is American, so I win the argument by telling him, hey buddy, I speak the Queen’s English..  I am sure Soulful encounters this problem from time to time...haha



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          Dee Dee Shaw wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • I love the Queen’s English and the accent that usually accompanies it! The Down Under accent is sexy to me too! I have Canadian friends and love to catch the little nuances. The only thing we argue about is Z or Zed. LOL



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          Almostfive0 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • That’s funny Annie and feather, I do the same thing...lol!



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          Jacquie6363 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Happymomma, yea, the Z & Zed is another issue...LOL



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          Cindylouwho1966 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • I spell properly, but I type horribly!!

          My biggest bitch is when someone uses an apostrophe improperly. If something is plural only (Books for sale) there is no "'". If it is possessive (The book's pages are torn) then you use "'"

          Another issue is “me” vs “I.”
          The way to test this is-would you say, “Jim was going to the store with I“? No. Therefore, “Jim was going to the store with Meg and I” is incorrect.



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          Cindylouwho1966 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Hey Jacquie, yer in ‘Merica now, speak ‘Merican!! ha

          That’s how you get past the “your” vs “you‘re” issue-playfully misspell it!



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          AnneMarie Kimberling wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • But you know, Ladies, if everyone were as perfect as WE are, whatever would we have to blog about???  LOL!  Love ya, girlies!



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Lu, I am with you on the ME versus I. I think that’s one of the most commonly used MISunderstandings.

          I see pictures all the time where the caption says “My husband and I” and I find I’m chewing my lips as I read it. ;)

          And since we‘re all off on wild tangents now, I would just like to take a moment to let everybody know that the word is JUDGMENT, not judgEment.



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          Jacquie6363 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • LOL...Cindylou, that’s the same thing one of the girls in my office says all the time....LOL



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          AnneMarie Kimberling wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • How about these:
          their vs there vs they‘re
          was vs were (properly used!)
          its vs it’s
          hear vs here
          just proper tenses in verbs period...

          oh, I could go on and on... but then again so many were covered above....



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          Jacquie6363 wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • This one is a very common mistake:

          Neice vs. Niece...Niece is the correct spelling.  When I get confused, I think of the word “piece”



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          Dee Dee Shaw wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • i before e except after c, or in words that say A like neighbor and weigh. :)

          And Heather, My husband and I went to the store is proper grammar. But that is a picture of my husband and me on the beach would be the correct pronoun.  

          I wasn't fond of Engish, but I aced my AP classes (with no spell check even.) College English was a different matter. I went from having a teacher in high school who loved flowery. She joked that she had a BA in BS. My college prof on the other hand was very stoic and expected that every word count. Succint was his middle name. You can imagine that I* didn't fare too well. I adapted, but it was no longer 'fun' to write. Now I am rusty and my kids can diagram a sentence better than I can. My biggest weakness is dangling participles. Sometimes you just *have to end a sentence with with. lol



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          Michelle Rowe wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Bfly - I feel you, girl. I totally agree with using words properly. I also love me some slang.



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          Bobbi Bacha wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Adzana, Im with you.. Im glad I have a writer for my books, agents and editors.. all I have to do is tell the story.  Vigirl, I like some slang too it dates a story.



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          Yana Berlin wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • I just realized, I have many more grammar issues than I though I did.....

          Anyone up for the challenge???? grammar 101?????  

          Who is going to lead that group?????



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          Feathermaye wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Yana, I’d be happy to work with some of the other Grammar-licious ladies here, as long as it’s understood by everyone that the suggestions are not attacks.  

          It seems many folks want to be offended by constructive advice and suggestions, which is the last thing intended.

          That being said, I am up for the challenge!



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          Yana Berlin wrote Nov 18, 2008
        • Here is your first challenge.

          I was explained MANY time that than and then is about time and comparison....I get it....but writing a comment above, I still had to stop and confirm with my children if it was than or then....

          HELP...any other way to get through my thick head?



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