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  • What does that X stand for??????

    21 posts, 12 voices, 1748 views, started Dec 19, 2008

    Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 by Sandy Ochoa-West

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      I am sitting here wondering why people say Xmas?? Merry Xmas sounds ridiculous. Xmas cookies? Just won’t taste as good. Xmas Cards , not feelin it. Xmas music, can’t sing a long to that!! Is the word Christ so offensive to people that they have decided to replace it with an X??? We have been calling it Christmas since it became a Holiday so this is baffling to me. I can take hearing Happy Holidays but Merry Xmas just doesn’t feel right. Sorry folks, that’s just my opinion. Merry CHRISTmas to all.



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          Ms-kay wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • You are entitled to your opinion but I feel that’s a stab to one title for my Fab Video Club....

          Let me start by saying that I’m no way offensive by the word Christ!!! But should this particular four-letter word cause offense? No!

          A little history lesson - In ancient Christian art, χ and χρ are abbreviations for Christ’s name. The Oxford English Dictionary documents the use of this abbreviation back to 1551, 50 years before the first English colonists arrived in North America and 60 years before the King James Version of the Bible was completed.



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          Jenz ~ wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • Entitled indeed.
          I can’t say that I’ve ever actually heard anyone verbalize the word Xmas out loud. I’ve only seen it written. It never occurred to me that it was an issue with Christ’ name~ I just always thought if that were the case they wouldn’t celebrate Christmas at all. ...Or something like that.
          And thank you Miss Kay for that history lesson. We learn something new each day. :)



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          Ms-kay wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • We sure do Jenz41! estatic



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          Leadinladytracy wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • Miss Kay thank you for the history lesson. I did not know that.



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          Mztracy wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • ty mskay, i did not know that either.

          ok ?
          Christ’s birth was not actually the 25th of december. So, why is that the day chosen?  

          It started with st nicholas giving children a gift in the their stockings hanging by the fire for drying.

          So, when did it become Christ’s bday, and why.

          I have always been curious about this.

          thanks ladies



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          Ms-kay wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • I’ve read the birth of Jesus is thought to have occurred between 7 and 2 BC.

          December 25 is not thought to be Jesus’ actual date of birth, and the date may have been chosen to correspond with either a Roman festival, or with the winter solstice-which means depending on the shift of the calendar occurs some time between December 20 and December 23 each year in the northern hemisphere during the longest night of the year.

          The logfire we see burning on some T.V. stations on Christmas represent the fire kept burning through the longest night of the year.



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          Sandy Ochoa-West wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • ms k im not sure what video club your talking about. My blog was referring to numerous encounters i have had recently with the word Xmas. If you see my profile it says Im still calling it “Christmas” and I pasted that over a week ago. This has been on my mind for awhile. I specifically posted it on the Sisters in Christ blog so I did’t offend anyone. I’m just voicing my opinion.



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          Thkful2bhiz08 wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • Writing 'Xmas’ instead of Christmas is not “taking the Christ out of Christmas.”  Nothing has the power to do that.  Using Xmas is an accepted practice dating back at least to the 1600s, perhaps much further.  The 'X’ means Christ, because 'X’ is the first letter in the Greek word, Chi or Ki.  Thanks Kay!



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          Ms-kay wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • As we send blogs, topics or send answers to certain groups we joined it shows up on the main page. It was just coincidence that we blog on the same issue.

          No one is taking your opinion from you. But facts have to come in to play every now and again.

          You wanted to know the reason why people use the X....I supplied the answer.



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          Trudy S wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • I was always taught that the X stood for the Cross and therefore Christ.  So X Mas really = Christ Mas, or the celebration(mass) of Christ’s birth.



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          Sandy Ochoa-West wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • Thanks for the history lessons. I feel much better about the whole Xmas thing. I personally will never use it but at least I know what it stands for.



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • Hmmm, the Chinese Translation for Christmas is much better than.  It means Holy Birth.  Peace.



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          Lisa Middlesworth wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • I have often wondered about this but never really put any thought into it.
          I doesn’t look right, it doesn’t sound right, so I prefer, myself the wonderful...
          MERRY CHRISTMAS
          Besides if my Grandmother were living and I used the X she would smack me on my head.
          I guess it just depends on your personal preference.



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          Thkful2bhiz08 wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • even though i know that information as well, i don’t use it either.  estatic i prefer “MERRY CHRISTMAS!” any day.



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          Thkful2bhiz08 wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • that’s nice as well.



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          Mztracy wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • ty mskay for your explanation.estatic

          i have always wondered that. originally it was meant to give a gift anomously by st nicholas. i always felt, that in itself, was pretty awesome. Hence Santa claus...



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          (華娃娃) ChinaDoll wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • I am giving this much thought and this is Chinadoll’s creative explanation.   Again the disclaimer is I do not represent my church and this is a IMHO type of comment:

          Jesus was crucified on a cross.  When Peter was crucified, he said he could not die equally or with such dignity like his great master so he asked his cross to be upside down.  So... I am thinking, with my lack of theology training, if I see a Xmas, I think of my unworthiness.  It works good for me so I am more at peace.



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          Mz. Queen wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • (wikipedia)  

            Nevertheless, some people believe that the term is part of an effort to “take Christ out of Christmas” or to literally “cross out Christ“;[3] it is seen as evidence of the secularization of Christmas, as a symptom of the commercialization of the holiday (as the abbreviation has long been used by retailers).  

            As we all agree to use what feels best to each, I say and write:

          MERRY CHRISTMAS

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          Ms-kay wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • As long as we never lose the REAL reason for the season  which is a representation of the love we universally feel for mankind.  

          It is symbolized by many other cultures beliefs and we will be united for as long as we realize that Christmas is a gift given to us by our ancestors to celebrate life and happiness.



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          Lorilyn wrote Dec 19, 2008
        • I was also wondering about the letter X in Christmas and had my question answered last week at my daughter’s base worship service. The pastor said it did mean Christ,in another language. He also explained about the date and why His birth is celebrated on Dec 25th.

           I wouldn’t personally use an X in place of writing Christ,but will feel less offended by others who do.



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