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  • Why do we even have a welfare program?

    15 posts, 11 voices, 1506 views, started Jul 16, 2009

    Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 by Mz. Queen

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    • Why do we even have a welfare program?

      This question was posed on the blog, “Why Is It,”  The one answer made me laugh( If you can't work, your family better be taking care of you, plain and simple.)  

      The original purpose for welfare was to get Americans through the Depression and something happened that caused it to live past that period in time.



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          Lazylola wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • I’m not opposed to having a welfare program that provides an economic boost to someone that just fell on hard times.

          I am opposed to the welfare program that turns into a lifestyle for many. I have a cousin who feels entitled to anything and everything she can get her hands on, except a job. I, along with others have reported her for welfare fraud, yet she manages to abuse the system.  

          I have no respect for her and even less respect for the managers of the programs who allow this to continue.  

          When I know of people that get into the mentality of having more kids because more kids = greater benefits my blood boils.



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          Mz. Queen wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • I agree with much of your sentiments, but it seems as if there’s nothing that will combat the program and its’ cracks, you know the ones that some people fall through while others misuse the concept.



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          Lazylola wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • So many of our programs, be it the welfare program, health insurance reform, to the bank bailouts need to be thought out and overhauled or simply just scrapped.

          Currently these programs are not working as they were intended to work. Which is sad, as you state there are people falling through the cracks, and there are that many more right behind them misusing these programs.  

          I guess its easier to keep throwing money at the programs rather than working harder at making sure they are not mis-used.



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          Jenz ~ wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • An interesting topic indeed. One that’s probably been too overlooked where it needed not to be for far too long.
          I see people on ‘the program’ who live in cheap housing and drive VERY expensive cars. That’s a tad nauseating to people who try to do things the way they‘re supposed to be done..
          And I’m sure there are some who are on it that need it and do not abuse the system. Good on them!
          I guess the one thing I would find offensive is, someone who’s always worked, falls on hard times and can’t get help. Now THAT is just wrong.
          Welfare. Really... What IS it?



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          Lazylola wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • Jenz, it is a catch 22 of sorts, back in the late 80’s when I left my first husband and went through a divorce I tried applying for assistance. Because I had a relatively new vehicle I could not get assistance. If I sold my vehicle I would have been left with no transportation to get to work, get my son to daycare, dr. appts, etc. A suggested solution was to fib, of course this came from my cousin, she assured me that I too could have a nice apartment with all utilities paid, free childcare while I searched for a job, food stamps, and cash assistance. I toughed it out. As long as I am able to work then I intend to work. I’m all for a hand up but not a hand out.



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          Doreen XoXo wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • It’s called being middle classed Jenz. We are not poor enough for help.



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          Mz. Queen wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • I remember when I tried to get assistance, they wanted me to get rid of my transportation too, how was that supposed to encourage me to find a job.



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          Doreen XoXo wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • that’s exactly my point!  I remember when I was a kid, my dad fell and was and has been disabled since then.  My mom signed up for public assistance.  Since she had a home she and my dad were paying off, they (the government) were going to put a lien on our house after 3 months.  At least they gave us that amount of time.  My mom suffered so to pay the pills with what little peanuts they gave her.  She went off assistance so not to lose our home to the government.  Seems so not fair of them to put yet another burden on top of everything else.  I went to work and gave my mom half my check to help us all out.  I wanted to give her my entire pay every week but she wouldnt have it.  I have to say, my mom and dad are living very well nowadays!! I am grateful for the “system” that helped for a bit but really they could have helped for a much greater length of time.  IMHO



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          L J wrote Jul 16, 2009
        • i was 19 and had my son and had to be on welfare for a while and let me go ahead and school you! social services was worse than a parole officer... i only needed the help for a little while and when i tried to go back to work, they tried to take my pay check and make me pay back money they said i owed to them, so! by me being young and dumb and not knowing what was right and wrong i wound up paying them and almost being on the street and that is the kind of help they give!!
          i would not send my dog to them for help!!!!!



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          Janet Wooley wrote Jul 17, 2009
        • Oh believe you me there is much more than welfare available and I know so many people who abuse it. It makes me sick, they know how to work the system and like Lola was told by one working the system how to do it to get free money. They claim they are mentally disabeled and fake being crazy to get a “crazy” check which is alot like welfare, they have section 8 which pays a large portion of someones rent and an example a woman I know (she was a neighbor) who got a “Crazy” check also got section 8 supplement and the government sent her landlord 876.00 dollars to her rent and she had to pay the rest, Her rent was 1000.00-876.00= barely nothing, 124.00 wanna know what she did for a living? sold her meds she got from the “crazy” Dr. who by the way paid her house calls every other week. She got food stamps and complete medical she did not pay a penny for. Her son had ADD and she got all kinds of free stuff for him trips to disneyland and he also had a Physicatrist (sp)visit monthly and mind you the taxpayers are footing the bill. She stays in a constant state of oblivousness(drunk or high) and is lying her way to doing nothing but complaining 24/7 about how bad she has it. She makes more collecting disability than I did working my butt off 40+ hours a week.And she was an informant to the police. Talk about calling the ketle black.
          I also know a woman who was college educated had a degree she got pregnant but got her degree before she gave birth to a son. Her boyfriend left her for another woman and she moved back home w/mom had a set of twins girls, with Mr. Cheater,mom kicked her out. she got into HUD housing, a 2 story 4 bedroom 3 bath apt in Irvine. She was on welfare and was slowly becoming an alcoholic and did not want to work she preferred laying out by the pool daily. She ended up having 8 kids, finally when the youngest was 6 they kicked her off welfare. HEEEELLO.She was on public assistance for over 20 years a hand up? What is wrong with this picture?



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          Tuliplady wrote Jul 17, 2009
        • Ok, I’m the one who posted this statement,  “If you can't work, your family better be taking care of you, plain and simple.”

          I admit it is very overly simplistic and idealistic.  If only it were possible for things to be that way.  

          I think we all know people who “work the system“.  It just makes me angry every time I see it.  I see it all the time.  We work our butts off so some young girl can have one or more  children out of wedlock and have the government pay all their healthcare expenses, their education, everything.

          It needs to stop.

          “The original purpose for welfare was to get Americans through the Depression and something happened that caused it to live past that period in time.”

          It didn’t just live past that period of time, it lived, thrived and  morphed into a huge and ugly monster



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          Vikki Hall wrote Jul 17, 2009
        • This is (and always has) something that really bothers me. I believe if our Gov’t took a good look at this program and made a few changes they would find some extra money that is needed.
          My question was why can’t welfare be ran sinilarily to unemployment?

          It should be available for short term with a definitive plan to get off of it. There should be rules as who can apply (just like unemployment) how long you can stay on it (again like unemployement) and you should have to call or go in weekly to be eligible to keep receiving (again like unemployment). I believe that if you are on it then you should also be signed up for one of the training programs it offers.

          I don’t mind paying for someone who has fell on hard times as long as they are attempting to help themselves.
          I do mind paying for those that CHOOSE to make it a lifestyle.

          My sister who has done hair all her life can no longer do hair. She has no other formal training, is single, and has limited funds. She is NOT eligible to receive help because she owns a home (my mothers) and a car (again my mom’s). So I guess gov’t would rather my sister sell or lose her house (she only pays taxes, the house is free and clear), sell her car and then live in gov’t housing (that right there is a whole other rant) that we pay for.
          In my version of common sense it makes sense to pay her to live in her house WHILE she is being trained in another profession. (BTW her house is old and not in any sense of the word full of luxury). Once the training is completed and a job is found then the welfare assistance should cease.

          Again maybe I am too simple and naive!



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          Angell VillafaƱe wrote Jul 18, 2009
        • I believe the welfare system has been abused for far too long! Too many people use it as a way of life instead of the intended purpose of using it as a temporary means to getting on their feet. I received assistance once upon a time when I was struggling but never did I ever make it a way of life. I got myself out there and went to school and struggled with pitiful job after pitiful job to make ends meet in addition to collecting any assistance I qualified for. With the grace of God I finally landed a great job with great benefits 16 years ago that I am thankful to still have today. It irks me to no end to see people scam the system and never get caught. I see young women around where I live having baby after baby and getting hundreds of dollars a month in public assistance, food stamps, daycare assistance all to just sit on their butts and do nothing all day. They do it because they are allowed to do it. There needs to be a huge overhaul of the welfare system. I am not saying do away with it but it needs to be reformed and used in the right way...for the soul purpose of temporarily helping those with needs and to help them get on their feet. One suggestion...more job training programs and make this a priority to getting assistance. Once that is done...give a certain amount of time to look for a job and show proof that the person is looking for a job and not just sitting around collecting assistance.



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