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  • Yes on 8 -Facts

    12 posts, 5 voices, 928 views, started Oct 8, 2008

    Posted on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 by Machel Elizabeth

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    • Amethyst
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      Fact Sheet  

       Proposition 8 protects the people's will and overturns activist judges.
      In 2000 over 61% of Californians voted in favor of Proposition 22 to reaffirm that only
      marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. However,
      because this language wasn't put into the state Constitution when it was approved, four
      activist judges from San Francisco wrongly overturned the people's vote. In November
      2008, Proposition 8 gives California voters the opportunity to reverse the court's decision
      and restore the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman in the state
      Constitution.    

       Proposition 8 is simple and straightforward.
      Proposition 8 contains the same 14 words that were previously approved in 2000 by over
      61% of California voters: "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or
      recognized in California." By putting these words directly into the state Constitution, the
      court cannot strike them down as unconstitutional.  

       Proposition 8 is about preserving marriage; it's not an attack on
      the gay lifestyle.
      Proposition 8 doesn't take away any rights or benefits from gay or lesbian domestic
      partners. Under California law, "domestic partners shall have the same rights, protections
      and benefits" as married spouses. (Family Code §297.5.) There are no exceptions to this.
      Proposition 8 will not change this.  

       Proposition 8 protects our children.
      Proposition 8 protects our children from being taught in public schools that same-sex
      marriage is the same as traditional marriage. In health education classes, state law requires
      teachers to instruct children as young as kindergarteners about marriage. (Education Code
      §51890.) If the same-sex marriage ruling is not overturned, teachers will be required to
      teach young children that there is no difference between gay marriage and traditional
      marriage.  

       Proposition 8 protects marriage as an essential institution of
      society.
      Proposition 8 protects marriage and the important role of a traditional family. While death,
      divorce or other circumstances may prevent the ideal, the best situation for a child is to be
      raised by a married mother and father.  

       YES on Proposition 8 does three simple things.  

       It restores the definition of marriage to what the vast majority of California voters
      already approved and human history has understood marriage to be.  

       It overturns the outrageous decision of four activist Supreme Court judges who ignored
      the will of the people.  

       It protects our children from being taught in public schools that "same-sex marriage" is
      the same as traditional marriage.  

      Vote Yes on Proposition 8!  

      www.ProtectMarriage.com



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          Machel Elizabeth wrote Oct 8, 2008
        • Interesting comments, thanks for your opinion.  Here are some Myths and Facts about Proposition 8.

          MYTH: Proposition 8 enshrines discrimination in our Constitution.  

          FACT: Proposition 8 does not discriminate against gays; it simply restores the meaning of
          marriage and protects it as an essential institution that has benefited mankind since the
          beginning of time. Every culture in the world understands that marriage is between a man and
          a woman. Californians from all walks of life and ethnic backgrounds, whether religious or not,
          agree that marriage is between a man and a woman.  

          Proposition 8 does not take away any rights from gay and lesbian domestic partners. Gays and
          lesbians in California can already enjoy all the legal rights and benefits of marriage. The
          California Family Code says, "domestic partners shall have all the rights, protections and
          benefits" of married spouses. There are NO exceptions to this. Proposition 8 will not change
          that.  

          MYTH: Allowing gay couples to legally marry does not affect
          anyone else.  

          FACT: The narrow decision of the State Supreme Court effectively renders all civil marriage
          meaningless and will result in tremendous confusion for children. The state Education Code
          (§51890) requires that teachers instruct children as young as kindergartners about marriage. If
          the gay marriage ruling becomes permanent, teachers will have little choice but to teach young
          children there is no difference between gay marriage and traditional marriage.  

          We should not accept a court decision that results in public school teachers teaching our kids
          that gay marriage is acceptable. That is an issue for parents to discuss with their children
          according to their own values and beliefs. It should not be forced on us against our will.  

          MYTH: This proposition is the work of right wing radicals and
          extremists to attack the rights of gays.  

          FACT: Proposition 8 is supported by a broad range of organizations and individuals, including
          faith leaders representing virtually every faith in California – and those who subscribe to no
          faith at all. People from every walk of life believe that marriage is between a man and a
          woman. Over 1.1 million Californians signed the petitions to put Proposition 8 on the ballot.  

          If gay marriage advocates want to change the definition of marriage, they should have to put a
          ballot measure before the voters to do so. This has never happened. Instead, they have gone
          behind the backs of voters and convinced four activist judges in San Francisco to redefine
          marriage for all of society. That is the wrong approach.  

          Proposition 8 does not interfere with gays living the lifestyle they choose. However, while gays
          can live as they want, they should not have the right to redefine marriage for the rest of
          society.  

          MYTH: The majority of the State Supreme Court said that gay
          marriage is a "right", so the rest of us should leave the issue
          alone.  

          FACT: Ultimately, the legal meaning of marriage is up to the people to decide.  Four judges on
          the Supreme Court declared that gay marriage is a "right" because the traditional definition of
          marriage did not expressly appear in the state Constitution itself. Proposition 8 overturns the
          court's flawed decision by amending the state Constitution to include the common-sense
          definition of marriage that was previously approved by over 61% of the voters (Proposition 22,
          enacted in 2000, "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in
          California").  

          Vote Yes on Proposition 8!  

          www.ProtectMarriage.com



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          Machel Elizabeth wrote Oct 12, 2008
        • I agree with thinking bigger.   I believe there should be equality for all.  Do you have children of your own?  I have closely watched many children grow up over the years. Even with my own children, I have an open mind.  If my boys felt more comfortable playing with baby dolls or doing things that girls traditionally do;  I would not discourage their behavior.  My daughter has never behaved in the traditional play of "typical" girlie-girl" activities.  From my own observations,  kids change their minds constantly about what they like and what they like to do.  They are like sponges and they can make their own choices.  Their taste changes throughout the course of their development.  

           I do not want young children to be forced to learn about gay marriage in the public school system.  If they decide that they feel more comfortable with the same sex, then let them make that decision when they are 18 years old, just like everything else.  At that time they are mature enough to know what their preferences are.  If a parent believes their child is unwaverly  gay, it is the parents responsibility to teach them that  its okay to be who you are.

          Prop 8 does eliminate equality for same sex marriage.  Under California law, "domestic partners shall have the same rights, protections and benefits as married spouses. (Family Code 297.5) There are no exceptions to this. Prop 8 will not change this.
          Vote Yes on Proposition 8 !



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          Machel Elizabeth wrote Oct 14, 2008
        • Over 1.1 million Californians signed the petitions to place Prop 8 on the ballot.  It is supported by a broad range of organizations and individuals, including faith leaders representing virtually every faith in California – AND THOSE WHO SUBSCRIBE TO NO FAITH AT ALL. People from every walk of life believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.

          It was approved in 2000 by over 61% of California voters. It was four activist judges in San Francisco who wrongly overturned the people's vote.  That’s why we need to pass this measure as a constitutional amendment to restore the definition of marriage.

          Voting YES on Proposition 8 does 3 simple things:

          It restores the definition of marriage to what the vast majority of California voters already approved and what Californians agree should be supported, not undermined.

          It overturns the outrageous decision of four activist Supreme Court judges who IGNORED the will of the people.

          It protects our children from being taught in public schools that "same-sex marriage" is the same as traditional marriage, and prevents other consequences to Californians who will be forced to not just be tolerant of gay lifestyles, but face mandatory compliance regardless of their personal beliefs.



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