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My workplace(elementary school) bosses are saying you can’t fight your own battles or choose your battles in regards to dealing with behavioral problem kids.  What are your thoughts?




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      Linda L wrote Mar 26, 2011
    • I believe when there are no consequences or you allow the kids to do as they please, and there is no plan to help the student improve their behavior, the kids don’t learn about making good choices in school and subsequently they win.




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      Momofthreeprincess wrote Mar 27, 2011
    • My daughter is a student teacher at a middle school where there is a program that the children are in charge of their own education.  The teacher can not harp on them to turn in work, they are allowed to turn it in by the end of the quarter.  They are not given detention but are stepped out of a class when they are misbehaving and go to a different classroom.  In order to go on in the program the student has to have an 86 average.  In the past the program has worked but this last year they are facing where only about 30 students will continue in the program.  This group of students are unruly,failling,falling behind the rest of the classes, and just seem not to care about getting a good education.  Daily my daughter comes home almost in tears about how difficult these children are.  My thought that when you put children in charge of their education all you will get is failure.  There will be the few that will want to succeed but on the most part the children will fail.




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      Linda L wrote Mar 27, 2011
    • Thank you Eva and Momofthree for your response.

      Our staff is facing the same dilemma as your daughter.  I’m so sorry she has to face the rudeness and the inability of some our children to focus on their education. Many of our staff feel that we are responsible to teach these children to make good choices in the elementary school level. This year we have a program mandated by our district to always be positive with all students.  However, it does not work for our emotionally disturbed students - it’s a daily struggle to get them to do their work, behave at recess, and we have to put up with their profanity and accommodate certain behaviors. We are told by our bosses that these students are that way because they are raised by single parents, there’s an upset in the family or we have to understand their culture.  Well, I say those are just excuses! I cry too and sometimes want to leave. Of course, the majority are wonderful students and they are the ones who keep me going.




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      UK Girl wrote Mar 27, 2011
    • I take it who ever came up with this scheme has never seen or read Lord of the Flies ?




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      Tamra wrote Mar 27, 2011
    • Since November, my son has been a victim of bullying and harassment.  Tomorrow he has to move to a new school with only 1/4 of the year left to finish out the school year.  Teachers say he has done nothing wrong, following the textbook approach in dealing with his bullies.  But it isn’t working.  Until Friday, he hadn’t even responded with so much as a single word when they made fun of him.  As taught, he simply turned and walked away every time, according to his teacher.  And what did that get him?  Nothing but more harassment.

      I am furious at the way the school officials, including the teachers and coaches, have neglected to protect my son after all these months!

      Hell yes, educators ought to be engaged in battle!!  Someone ought to be fighting on behalf of my son!  

      Like it our not, there are many battles to be fought in schools today.  Educators want to be passive, pretending they can just pat kids on the head and all will be just fine.  But I’m here to tell you from my own experience, that’s a stupid approach.  It’s time folks in the business of education took off their rose-colored glasses and got a grip on reality.

      Yes, I’m mad as hell!  (And yes, I do have a right to criticize.  I have 12 years experience as a parent in the educational system, and I work for the College of Education at a major university.)




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      Linda L wrote Mar 27, 2011
    • I’m so sorry your son has been bullied and harrassed and is moving to another school.  Sadly, the administrators at my school claim that being passive is the right approach and I totally disagree. It sickens me when all they do is smile and give a pat or high five and the student just grins with a “gotcha“. I’ve been noted as a very negative person because I am firm with children and I’m vocal about the wrongs at our school, so these days I have to lay low. It upsets me that our school leadership is poor and teachers say that it’s a losing battle. I don’t leave because I need a job and I enjoy working in classrooms to help struggling students.  

      Yes, I’m mad as hell as you are and you certainly have the right to criticize our educational system. You’ve said it well, educators ought to be engaged in battle in our schools today.

      I hope the new school your son attends will keep him safe.




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      Tamra wrote Mar 28, 2011
    • Thanks for your support, Linda.  Please allow me to return mine to you, as well.  You seem to have a very accurate perspective on things.  I hope you can continue to “fight the good fight!” Our schools need more level-headed people like you!

      I hope that the administrators in charge who make these ridiculous policies, but obviously don’t understand what it is to be the recipient of such horrible treatment, get a chance to see it up close and personal one day.  Put them in the victim’s shoes and they might learn to have some compassion for the people being harmed.

      And they say they care about our children....




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      Sandysconnected wrote Mar 30, 2011
    • It is dependent to each child, for me. Having worked in a high school and in a treatment center, I learned that there is SO MUCH going on at home w/ each child, that you can’t even begin to fathom. I doled out consequences per offense, but there were times when a child was unusually sassy or disruptive, I tried to determine the underlying issue first, if I could. Some kids didn’t go to bed until 2am before school, and didn’t get fed breakfast. Some had parents who screamed at them so often that being consequenced at school barely fazed them. I would never coddle a child or ignore a serious offense...but yes, I did pick my battles.




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