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What do you thing we should do about the death of the worker at Wal-mart.
Do away with black Friday?

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      Ms-kay wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • No that won’t solve the problem. It’s automatic that great bargains start right after Thanksgiving. It’s unfortunate that some people become very unruly even though it’s supposed to be the most wonderful time of the year.  

      I believe department stores should now have uniformed cops on patrol inside the store and outside to make sure crowd control is in order.




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      Almostfive0 wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • I think Wal-Mart should have known better than to have only one person at the door for a crowd like that....if that was indeed the case.
      It was a combination of the mentality of the people, which is really just sad and the negligence of the store.

      They stores that participate in this event should have more workers scheduled for the event and definitely security.




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      Tuliplady wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • This may sound drastic, but I think each and every person that was in that crowd should have been arrested and charged.  Where is personal responsibility? common sense? common courtesy?

      Let’s face it, there is not a consumer good on this earth and certainly nothing that walmart sells that is worth anyone’s life!




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      Jenz ~ wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • I don’t know that there’s realistically anything we CAN do. I won’t participate in the black Friday thing. I think it’s dumb~always have. I never stress about Christmas shopping. I wait until all the dummies are done & go & get everything I need the week before when the ‘after black Friday” sales are happening & stores are trying to get rid of everything. Easy in, easy out. Done in a day.
      Plus, I have to do it that way because I can’t hang onto anything until Christmas. lol Either they’d find it or I’d have to give it to them!
      Back to the point though, there is no way in hell I’d EVER act the way those people did the day that poor man lost his life on Black Friday. WTF!?
      Makes you want to reach out & smack someone.




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      Mztracy wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • I never do black friday, so it would not bother me to stop it. Working in retail at one time, the deals are not always deals. Prices are raised so the deals look great. In reality, wait a while and most of the items will be that price anyways. Now not all, but most!!  

      For someone to die because of this, WalMart  should definately be held responsible. I'm not a big walmart, let's import everything not pay properly, store anyways. When the dad died the store went to crap!! IMHO!!




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      Tuliplady wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • I don’t think it’s really Walmart’s fault that people are idiots.  Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending walmart, but it was the stupid, greedy, irresponsible people that killed that man, not the store.




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      Jenz ~ wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • Let me ask this~
      Who IS being held accountable?? Legally, WalMart’ll likely be sued because it happened on their property, no?




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      Mztracy wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • well since they did not hire enough people to handle the front of the store, they are liable. they scimped at every corner. estatic




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      Jenz ~ wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • Wal Mart sucks. what the hell is the point of having 40 registers & 2 cashiers working anyway? Back to the point though, the whole thing is just sickening. When did Christmas shopping become important enough to trample someone to death!! UGH!!! WHAT is WRONG with these people?! I truly hope EVERY single idiot that walked through those doors when that happened feels like crap about what happened for a VERY LONG TIME!!!




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      Leadinladytracy wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • I think Walmart should be held accountable. The man’s family should be compensated for their loss.

      I feel that Black Friday is over-rated also. You know if you wait until the week before Christmas, the sales are even better - LOL!

      I do not participate in Black Fridays, don’t believe in it and do not have the patience for it.

      Because the stores open up at 7:00 am during this time, I do all my shopping between 7 am and 9 am. The reason, I can’t stand waiting in line. Even the malls are open that early.




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      Coachmombabe wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • I don’t participate in Black Friday either. Where’s the love in it? Where’s the grace and charity? It’s an “all about me” attitude.  

      I’m asking the same questions you all are...who is being held accountable? What if this were my husband, son, loved one? Who will answer for this senseless death?  

      It really puts a cloud over the holiday. It gives me a serious reality check.




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      Bobbi Bacha wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • Well in Texas when we have stampedes we get on horses and heard them in the safe direction.

      Id say.. get out of the way, and get on something to heard the crowd..  

      But seriously it was a horrific event, I heard even a pregnant woman was run down.. People trampling in a crowd always amazes me but Its got to do with fear or over excitement and as the crowds push forward anyone that falls or is in the way is crushed.  

      I guess next year.. they will have crowd control and police outside lining up the crowds in a proper way.  I stay home.. but my sister is up by 3.00 AM on Black Friday.




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      Mary Clark wrote Dec 2, 2008
    • As an attorney stated this morning on the news, it will be hard to file criminal charges against the customers that trampled this employee because it was not intentional.  

      But a lawsuit can be filed against Walmart for not having better crowd control in place.  Wal-mart did state that this man had not been trained in “crowd control“.  Hmmmm....I find that hard to believe that they have a crowd control policy in place.  They could have hired off duty police officers to control those people.  It’s one day...I think Wal-mart could have afforded it but now.....I am sure this man’s family will be diving into Wal-mart’s pockets...and those are some deep pockets.  And they should.  It was negligence.




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      Womensafety wrote Dec 3, 2008
    • I think this guy was just their to open the doors and try to move away. I agree that someone should be held responsible for this and yes Wal-mart is one of them but it could have happened in any store. I myself do not go out on Black Friday. I start my shopping in Sept so by Dec 1 I am Done. I do like to go and watch people.I have not seen the Surveillance tapes but I would think the crowd was in the way of the camera. Has anyone seen it on the news yet.




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      Linni wrote Dec 3, 2008
    • i too think BLACK FRIDAY is overrated! i have never been one to participate, because of working in tetail, its not really a deal at all..

      I think walmart suck, and KNOW that once Sams sons’ took over after his death, it went down hill..i am sure he is rolling over in his grave NOW!

      i think walmart should be held responsible, and get more than a slap on the wrist.. like it was stated, it will be hard to charge anyone with this mans death..

      what is this Country coming too when someone dies for a game...




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      Mary Clark wrote Dec 3, 2008
    • I believe that I heard on the news (listening while I was getting ready for work) that last year that same particular Wal-mart..that the doors had been bent from the crowd.  This year they succeeded in breaking down the door and killing someone.  

      Yes it could have happened at any store, but I would think that if your store has had “crowd” problems  in the past that you would prepare yourself better for the next year...whether you ended up needing it or not.  

      Our local Best Buy had people to start lining up outside Thanksgiving morning (skipping their own Thanksgiving celebration) to stand in line for whatever gadget.  But...what our Best Buy did was they only allowed 60 people in at a time.  The first 60 people in line were allowed to go in first...as one came out...one went in.  And I think eventually as the crowd got less they opened up completely.  And I think there was security there as well.  

      Do I think it’s ridiculous?  Absolutely.  There is nothing materialistic out there worth me standing in line for hours and fighting that so call “black Friday” crowd.  But if you are the merchant and you are going to advertise items for sale that are cut very deeply you better be prepared for what can possibly come through your door.  

      And to the crowd that trampled him and never stopped to help him .....how in the world do you lay your head down at night?




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      Linni wrote Dec 3, 2008
    • AMEN MARYCLARK!

      im so with you on this!




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      Bobbi Bacha wrote Dec 3, 2008
    • Concerning Crowd controll is the stores are cutting corners using Asset Controll officers which are nothing more than people they hire, put a suit on and they look like Security but they are not trained in security or regulated by security rules.  I have a security side to my company and I get complaints all the time about these Look a like security officer.  They save money by using thier employees to give customers a false sence of security, our industry has been fighting this for years.  We say, hire real security or police as we are trained.  It always saddens me to see that stores cutting corners risk thier customers.  Next time your at a Target look at the soooo called security officers they have.. They are not security and can not have that on thier uniforms as they are not trained.  The uniform says Asset Protection as they are not real.. Its a false since of security.  They are not regulated or trained.

      I do feel for the man that was trampled by a uncontrolled crowd.  He was not trained to handle crowd control.




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